but daddy Jayne
I need them to parse grey in my raids and get dunked on by a keyboard turning ret with his W key stuck in his forehead with a disconnected rsham
They explicitly stated that their intent behind this change was to remove a grind. The reasoning was that more people than intended saw the conduit grind as mandatory for how small of a buff it gives most specs, and they wanted to cut back on that.
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casuals cant have everything. theyâre not good enough.
You act like casual players canât do 20s
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This term is only defined by the person using it at the time.
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If your only experience in 15s or heroic raids is as the buyer, do you need even 265 conduits? (not saying this is true of the druid you responded to, but just as a general point)
Iâm sure some can. I only go above 15 because pugging 16 -17âs can be easier than a 15 a lot of the time.
And I like the idea of them dropping from content instead of some FOMO grind.
Just 10 - 15 seems more appropriate than 15-20.
15-20 with no filler method like a currency purchase just seems like a vindictive solution to not having a grind.
Even using your own definition, it wonât make sense for casual to care about 278 ilvl conduit, because casuals donât care about their performance.
So you would call a player who plays 8 hours a day but never does current contentâŠwhat? Hardcore?
8 hours a day everyday is not only hardcore, youâre either addicted or a streamer.
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Wrong.
I am a casual and I donât play WoW for eight or more hours a day because I care about the result (what result? joints achy from disuse?) and/or rewards (they are virtual, give me a break), I play WoW for eight or more hours a day because I love being in the World.
To me:
Casual
- relaxed attitude towards playing
- favors fun-oriented play choices
- focus is on âthe journeyâ
Serious
- intense attitude towards playing
- favors goal-oriented play choices
- focus is on âwinningâ
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So everybody who plays 8 hours a day is either being paid to do it, or should be referred to as a mental health issue?
I see everything you say should be entirely disregarded as disinformation.
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hey. what about bads. what do we diagnose as âjust badâ ? I feel this group gets overlooked, and itâs quite sizeable.
Playing 8 hours a day everyday is not healthy dude, thatâs what world first raider do in the first month of every patch (and people call them sweaty). If you do what they do but for the entirity of the patch, i would argue that youâre even more hardcore than Limit or Echo.
Even worse if you only do world content, no gaming company would ever be able to make a content for such players.
Iâm retired, dude. Itâs not up to you to diagnose me with a mental condition and tell me to do absolutely nothing ever.
Actually, gaming companies that want to make the maximum profit make an effort to give their customers what it takes to keep them playing and paying. You clearly have no clue how casuals choose to play and what they enjoy doing with their time, so you feel completely justified in manufacturing total lies to make you feel all superior and stuff.
Iâm amazed. They really should get a better class of shills in.
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Ya, i used the word âCasualâ which is my bad since itâs a mostly meaningless term and it completely derailed the conversation.
I just disagree with with putting the gearing path above 15âs which is the cap for iLvl.
The learning and less skilled players need access to upgrades more than anyone and starting the upgrade path for conduits at 15 is extreme. We came out of 9.1 with 252 and now we only start to upgrade them at +15âs?
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You being retired doesnât change the fact that playing 8 hours a day is not the norm, or even close to being casual, your feeling had nothing to do with it.
Anyone that do something regularly, everyday for 8 hours a day is not a casual, be it going to the gym, swimming, or anything.
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Donât bet on it. Youâll probably still have to raid/run mythics, etc⊠to get maxed conduits.
Someone who plays like I do, (I donât raid/mythics) most likely wonât be seeing them and I also donât care.
Do they really though? 252 conduits would be enough for someone starting out to get into higher level content, right or am I misunderstanding?
I like this definition best. Iâd be a casual and Iâve also played for 8+ hours a day for several days on end since I started.
Iâm not addicted, not a streamer either. I just had the time to kill, nothing else needed to be done & doing that allowed me to save real life money so it was a win/win.
Plus, itâs a beautiful world both ingame and IRL. IRL can kill you for real, though.
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As an officer in a casual old farts guild⊠They most desperately need upgrades.
Like I said⊠We came out of 9.1 with 252. And you can still upgrade them to 252 with 9.1 content. Current upgrades starting at +15 is really moving the goalposts further. BfA the end point for gearing was +10. SL moved that 5 levels past the last affix to 15, now 20.
And 20 is definitely getting into the realm where spec balance is going matter quite a bit.
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