How To Precisely Reduce Button Bloat

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Instead of reducing button bloat by pruning abilities… we should be looking at ways to synergize abilities that make sense.

Here are a few of my suggestions based on the classes I have some experience playing.

Arms Warrior
-Combine Whirlwind and Thunderclap

Enhancement Shaman
-Combine Flame Shock and Lava Lash

Havoc Demon Hunter
-Combine Sigil of Flame and Immolation Aura
OR
-Combine The Hunt and Essence Break (Upon Impact)

Paladin
-Combine Hammer of Wrath and Judgment
Retribution Paladin
-Buff Templar Strikes to have the second combo attack generate 2 Holy Power and critically strike

Unholy Death Knight
-Combine Unholy Frenzy’s Haste benefit with Dark Transformation
-Combine the 4 Festering Rune Stack of Unholy Frenzy with Apocalypse, likely after already popping up to 4 wounds the ability will apply another 4

What others are out there?

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I have to ask how many buttons do you think a class needs to press? Is the minimum 1 button and the max 10?

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Most of the time a general damage rotation should consist of 5 main attacks imo. Of course there can be outliers where maybe a spec or 2 is 4 main buttons while some others are 6.

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Everyone needs to up their numbers to brewmaster levels

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There are already passives that can be taken instead of extra buttons.

If they aren’t up to snuf, then make them up to snuf.

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This thread gives me MoP thread vibes.

Prepare for WoD ability prune 2.0!

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On Disc Priest, mind blast is really only ever used with a proc or as a stronger smite. Just empowering smite every few seconds will remove one button.

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I like some of these ideas, but I don’t know how this one alleviates button bloat. If anything this would encourage button bloat because right now crusading strikes which is completely passive is a roughly equally tuned option over templar. Buff templar and you cant choose the passive option anymore without a dps loss.

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Why not both? I’ve had my fun with some abilities and I don’t want them anymore. Mindgames, for example. Soul rot. Adaptive swarm and cenarion ward. Also for the purposes of your thread you could combine volley with death chakram, but try to make it worse in ST somehow because volley feels weird to use on ST.

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I really don’t get where this whole “button bloat” stuff came from.
Have you tried, like, not picking/using abilities if you don’t like to use them?
Making macros?

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Asmon whining, because no one will carry him anymore, so “game is too complicated and bloated.”

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In short: has-been’s whining about the fact that they are has-beens, while doing nothing to address that fact.

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Ah, it’s another one of those topics where he probably elaborates and makes some decent points but the average parrots just start being annoying with the immediate face-value statement.

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Found the defensive Asmon fan. lol

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Wait you snuck this one in here

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Honestly can’t think of anything I’d be happy about being removed from frost mage. Everything is important to establishing and riding the flow of the spec.

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I occasionally watch his stream clips, how in the name of Zovaal am I a “defensive Asmon fan”???

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Button bloat is real and I’ll bet they streamline things a bit next expansion. Just adding more buttons every expansion isn’t going to pan out.

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It’s easy to blame asmon but he’s really not the cause of this, just a symptom.

As the skill ceiling is raised the gap between the top and bottom players gets larger. For a lot of causal / mid-tier players moving from the top of the dps charts to mid / bottom as they struggle to keep up is not fun.

Yes, it is sorta a good gud issue… but its also a lot of people who want the game more like it used to be because they had more fun performing well with easier rotations. The core of the argument that blizz devs intent should be making the game as fun as they can for the most amount of people.

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No one can actually ID this legendary streamer that is getting people to post about button bloat. If it was Asmongold, it would be easy to find a clip.

You can find posts about it shortly after the expansion came out. People just don’t want to acknowledge it. Partially due to flexing about liking complexity while they do normals I guess.