When did I say that
From the 3rd note:
See: rhetorical question
The point I’m making is the OP is nothing more than a vague bit of whining. It doesn’t even say anything that would actually tell us the OP is talking about anything relevant to the current game.
Literally, take the OP and put it in the context of pretty much any time in the last 20 years. It works anywhere.
That’s how you know the post is useless
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A question asked to create a dramatic response to make a point. Call me silly but to me asking what something is about fails to create that dramatic response.
Well, I’m putting in about as much effort as the OP. Gotta put in effort to get drama. I generally don’t try to value-add in useless posts like these. I just come in and make fun of them and head out
I also don’t think a “dramatic response” is a requisite for something being a rhetorical question
Which is a pretty naive way of looking at it
It would help if you were clear which side you are on. This is a very divisive issue with strong arguments being made each way.
Side A: “WoW should be treated as a calling. We should all strive for RWF level.”
Side B: “WoW is a silly game I love. I should be able to play it without being yelled at.”
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I am not sure I have ever seen this side exist.
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You are not looking. It’s basically the “Git gud” argument.
Get out of the mud,
Wash with a sud,
Time to git gud,
So you won’t have a thud.
So every single person that wants to improve their gameplay, believes that WoW is a calling. And we should all strive for RWF?
Like, you are drawing some lines in the sand, with some huge assumptions that are going to divide people on exaggerations.
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No, every single person who believes that anyone who can’t keep up is a noobe and should be kicked is someone who thinks WoW is a calling. Or they are an RWF team training for the next race.
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And the existence of that side is greatly exaggerated. Along with how easily someone will be put in there. Typically if you arent willing to carry someone, even a complete stranger, you will be labeled as part of that side.
I am not sure I have ever seen that personality seriously stated.
The only place I see it suggested is doing high end content, and people getting mad others wont carry them.
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Here - I’ll help you out with a couple examples:
- Nerfing Poison Cleansing Totem - Instead of:
– Giving more healers the abiity to remove Poison
– Making Devour Affix immune to Poison Cleansing Totem - Nerfing Fury Warriors INTO OBLIVION - Instead of:
– Buffing underperforming DPS - Nerfing Mid-tier Specs - Instead of:
– Not touching them at all - Nerfing Heroic/Mythic Queen - Instead of:
– Reverting Player Nerfs
– Buffing Underperformers
Nerfs ALWAYS feel bad - Buffs at least feel good to those getting them, but benefits all in terms of clearing content.
In Dragonflight they smashed Priests Mass Dispel by making a 45-sec CD into a 2min CD. — Exactly like they are going to do to Shamans PC:Totem.
- Mass Dispel was nerfed because it countered Bursting
– Change was never reverted despite Bursting being removed from game - Poison Cleansing Totem got the Mass Dispel Treatment
Blizzards Idea of Balance is, as long as everyone is miserable then Balance has been achieved.
Helldivers pulled the same crap - People enjoyed logging in and crushing content. They typically used the same handful of weapons. - The Devs didn’t like how people were playing thier game, so they nerfed the “Good” weapons, buffed Enemies - and barely buffed the underperforming weapons that people didn’t want to use anyways. – Guess what happened?
The game lost 80% of its player base in like 2-months.
I rather see the game release with dramatically overtuned content, and see nothing but buffs come out for the players while leaving the content alone, unless something is gamebreaking.
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Your argument is made continually as well. So the arguments are
Side A) Anyone who is not as good as us is a leach trying to be carried and should be kicked.
Side B) Anyone who kicks new players is a toxic elitist who sees WoW as a calling.
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My argument is that there are more than 2 sides, and trying to put everyone into two extreme sides is going to be met with backlash.
I never advocated for anyone being kicked.
Making two sides, where you exaggerate to make anyone not agreeing with you the bad guy will make any attempt at conversation useless.
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You are way more articulate than I am. 100% this.
Ok so people get kicked because
- They are noobs trying to be carried who will ruin my key - and -
- What?
what does any of that have to do with what I was talking about?
I don’t know, most of my comments were part of a discussion with Haugs.
I don’t remember which of you said what.
I was primarily talking about how when you posted
I think it cheapens the conversation to try to say there are only two sides. It creates an issue where a lot of people dont fit in either side.