How to make a player quit for the moment

SoftBlizz, Learn to in house test.

No player should ever be randomly teleported while doing the “Nightfall,” Arathi thing to some place underwater off the coast of Zandalar

It’s not cute, it’s not funny, it only pisses the end user off

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So you will unsubscribe over the game not being play tested? And how long will the period of being unsubscribed last?

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Randomly teleported to Zandalar? I have doubts.

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That isn’t what he said, and even if it had been…honestly. Nightfall has been the buggiest mess they ever released. OP’s point is valid.

It is infuriating that in the back half of season 2, we still have the same absolutely instance-breaking bugs in all of the underwater delves that we had at launch PLUS the new ones that showed up with the season 2 nemesis mobs.

It is infuriating that the singular feature of the latest content patch is so buggy that a lot of us couldn’t play it at all in the first week and we’re still having bugs like the one OP mentions after they had a week to fix it.

It is infuriating that they continue to ignore feedback from beta and ptr.

Venting about that frustration on the GD forum is appropriate, especially when said post is reasonable, coherent, and doesn’t indulge in exaggeration.

Why? Why would you have doubts about that?

If you will recall: Zandalar is a zone we actively use in Undermine weeklies, so I don’t have any doubt that this happened.

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I’m not saying the complaint is invalid, or that he’s wrong to be upset about obvious bugs. I just wonder if he and others who are upset will unsubscribe over it, now that it’s the norm for new content to be tested on live servers.

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I am not of the opinion that one has to stop playing a game they’ve played for years or even decades in order to garner the dev team’s notice.

I am not saying this about your post, Elm, but it’s a common enough sentiment on GD that I’m put in mind of it…but the “If you’re not willing to unsubscribe, then why even complain,” is not a philosophy I think we should embrace. There is all; there is nothing; and then there is the middle ground where most reasonable people live.

It has ever been thus with WoW. It has always been this way. I get irritated by it from time to time, too. It’s like Bethesda games are historically so buggy that they are literally unplayable (that’s a meme, but it’s because of the reality of Skyrim’s base game). I still play Skyrim; I just mod it into oblivion (pun intended). /grin

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It’s not unreasonable that they might unsub, or that it might have an effect.

We might not have gotten Pathfinder if people didn’t ragequit WoD over no flying.

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Nah.

People who post “quitting” threads are all talk and no bite.

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What proportion of players would you say unsubscribe over content with many bugs, and how long do they unsubscribe on average? Estimates are still helpful.

Very few (you didn’t ask me, but…).

People come here to vent, and the ones who only come here when venting—as opposed to those of us who for some maniacal reason come here for the simple chat, too—are usually really annoying and write incoherent wall-of-text rage manifestos.

I dunno. I just felt like this OP was really tame and reasonable by comparison. I’d be tilted if I was doing my WoW chores and got yeeted into sea fatigue in another zone, too.

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I tend to agree with this.

My reason is this.

No matter the reason some friends who left years ago did was because they moved on to other things and didn’t come here posting about quitting for this or that reason they just quit and moved on. Same goes for me when I have quit in the past , didn’t feel so self inflated I had to come and make posts about why quitting.

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It’s very few? And, the ones who unsubscribe, do you think they come back, or leave permanently, and if they come back, how long is the usual break period?

I would have no way of knowing without data. I mean, I could speculate, but that’s all it would be.

Edited to add: I said “very few” because most people playing this game today that I’ve run into have been playing for a very long time. Most of us are either addicted to this game or use it as a meeting place with a social group of people we actually care about. My speculative answer would be that people get mad or bored or burned out and take breaks of varying lengths. Some unsub. Some don’t even bother with that. Most return to the game at some point. That’s my speculative hunch.

Same. I take very long breaks from the game, and I have never made a forum post announcing my exit.

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Please let me know what you think, even speculation is helpful. Speculation from a WoW player about WoW is probably better than it could be from anyone else, after all.

(lol…I edited my post up there with my answer while you were typing this)

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I could speculate on this but I think it really comes down to the person.

When I did it was for 6 years.

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/fist bump

My breaks are usually between one year and one expansion long. I once left the game for 3 years, but that was not about the game. It was about my life stage (university and parenting a very young kid at the same time).

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My reason is: action taken

Those who actually take action do so in silence
For others, venting is their action.

So if youre here venting, youre not quitting

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I started playing in my 30s.

For me at the time of last break was, life on the crew of the cruise ship I worked on kept me so busy didn’t really think about the game.

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Pretty much that right there.