How To Implement Account Wide Rep

So recently (link and quote posted at the bottom of the post) Ion had an interview where he was discussing a variety of things one of which is Account Wide Rep.

What I recommend is pretty simple and opt in. A quartermaster in the capital city which sells a BoA rep token (or heirloom like the scouting maps) for 100 to 1000 gold that you can buy on a character that is already at exalted for that rep. You can mail it to an alt and you consume it to be exalted with that faction (so award 84,000 rep which is the amount needed to go from 0/36,000 hated to exalted).

For example, Voidarcane is exalted with Ogri’la and goes to Stormwind to the Quartermaster and pays X gold for a Ogri’la Exaltation Token. Voidarcane mails the token to Voidlich and Voidlich uses the token instantly becoming exalted with Ogri’la.

A rep token shouldn’t be to hard for the team to implement where the token simply needs to give 84k rep (for pre-legion reps).

Interview Quote:

  • Account-wide Reputations is something they hear about a lot, but Account-wide things are the direction they’re moving with most things. They’re more likely to have account-wide things on new things as they can build them that way from the ground up. Most older reputations have hooks to things on a character level rather than an account-wide level. Down the road, they may want to figure out what Account-Wide means on a more global scale.

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But that’s not account wide rep. Sure, it can “equalize” rep, but its not the same thing.

Simple example.

In the past few expansions, when we reach exalted, we still gain rep. When we get 10k, we get a chest. If rep were account wide, I could run the dailies on 10 characters and get that chest 10 times faster. Today it’s like making babies. Yea, 9 moms beget 9 babies, but they still take 9 months, instead of one baby a month.

Share rep is 1 baby a month.

I doubt they will do what you’re talking about, they tend to not spend a lot of time on past content. Look how long its taking them to make BfA raids soloable.

But they can do it in the future.

I’m pretty sure “equalize” reps is what most people mean by it, myself included, as the reps used are often those pre-legion paragon chests. Especially when it comes to recipes and transmog which we would need to regrind the rep at least 3 more times (1 on each other armor type) to obtain the rewards.

I don’t think Paragon chest progress should be account wide however. In your example you would still get 10 paragon boxes at the same time if it wasn’t account wide by doing the same activities on 10 characters for the 10k (7.5k for dragonflight) rep for them. In your example you simply just get 1 box at a time faster.

Say on a character it would take 1 week of World Quests/Dailies to get a paragon box. If you did all of those WQ/Dailies on 10 characters you would get 10 boxes in a week. If all characters could contribute to the same paragon rep bar you would still get 10 boxes in a week, but you would get 1 box a day an a 2nd every other day.

I think it would be quite easy to implement what I am saying because we already have rep tokens (look at Timewalking vendor’s rep tokens) all you would need to do is modify one.

This is a good reason why they don’t like it. They’d have to put an account wide cap on rep gains so that people aren’t forced to level alts in order to max reps the quickest.

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Just another of those subtle things that makes “it’s so simple” changes, well, no so simple.

But my idea is that if you are already exalted on one character you can make another character exalted. Not account wide progress with all characters contributing to a rep…

Most people when we think of account wide rep we mean we can make our alts exalted with reps we are already exalted with on another character. Not account wide progress.

For example I’m an altaholic, I’ve done the Insane achievement twice on my account in retail on my Mage (this character) and my DK (Voidlich-Whisperwind). People like me who play every class (or most) would like to have a way for our alts to be exalted with a rep instead of needing to regrind especially if we decide on a new main.

I’d pay 500 gold per token, it would be a new gold sink. Have the main heirloom vendor sell um, we already know where they live.

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How about just make it account wide. You gain rep, fills a rep bar that is account wide and shows the same across all characters. Not sure why it needs to be made complicated or use items or do extra steps.

Get rep, fills bar, bar same for all characters. At most change the UI behind it to make it stand out more similar to the renown window.

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Me and most other’s aren’t asking for account wide progression of reps.

Just the ability to make our alts become exalted with a rep so we can grab transmog and recipies. I don’t want to regrind the Mount Hyjal Rep on my JC for the JC patterns, or Ogri’la for the shield etc.

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You may not be but clearly many other players are if that is the response Ion is giving. I’m just saying if they are going to do it then just do it and don’t throw in extra steps like token for instant exalted, some other bonus or item usage. Just make it account wide and be done with it.

The thing is some people (whom are insane) don’t want all their characters at exalted and want to grind. (Also issues with warring factions like Bloodsaild Bucs and Goblins, Scryers and Aldor etc)

Thats why my suggestion is opt in. It’s also using already existing items. We have rep tokens that give X rep. All that would need to be implemented for pre-legion reps is a BoA token that gives 84k rep which (the amount needed to go from 0/36,000 hated to exalted). Only major roadblock is post legion reps that have paragon catches attached to them.

I like it cause my pally could go into booty bay again if I wanted.

I say make it even easier than this.

Account Wide Reputation, applies to legacy reputation only.
The moment an expansion becomes “outdated,” the factions of said expansion move to being “account wide.”

We get our account wide reputation, Blizzard gets to force us into lame reputation grinds. Win/win.

P.S. On another note, can we please bring back grinding reputation in 5 mans? Thanks.

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Too complicated.

Just make it account wide and use the highest rep throughout all characters when implemented. After that sll rep gains are shared.

There’s no need to make it any more complicated than that.

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While I don’t think it’ll make everyone happy… I think once you hit exalted you should earn an account wide rep after that. Basically you would have to hit exalted twice.

A fair compromise that neither side will be perfectly happy with

Too much work and would confuse players.

Just make it account wide.

I don’t understand those arguing that there should be rep cap gains if rep is account wide? Why? DF has no rep cap and it’s extremely easy to funnel nearly all your renown gains from your main to your alt.

My alt in DF has nearly maxed on all factions yet has only done Waking Shore and Forbidden Reach.

I don’t see any need for caps or making it complicated.

The best and simplest solution is just to share rep gains from all characters.

Renown factions wouldn’t be shared. To Covenants in SL and the DF renown factions, and renown factions going forward, wouldn’t be accountwide. Just old, legacy content.

Would it be confusing to see another bar?

What you’re asking for is probably never going to happen because it’s too easy and reduces play time.

Whats complicated about a Quartermaster in the capital city providing a rep token that makes you exalted? We already have the rep tokens in game and all that would need to be done is make one that is BoA, locked behind that rep being exalted, and setting its value to 84k rep (for non paragon rep’s).

It would confuse players and is pointlessly complicated.

There’s no reason old, legacy content needs to be treated that way. It would be far easier on blizzard to just make it accountwide and not this segregated and abridged version.

Blizzard knows rep grinding blows. They also know the vast majority of players don’t grind rep on characters that aren’t their main. Or that players will alts may not even max many factions due to lost progress from switching characters.

MoP had rep gain increase tokens that doubled rep gain accountwide. Doesn’t change that even with that the vast majority never utilized it or grinded those factions again on an alt.

Full on accountwide rep benefits the playerbase. Those that would be angry over it are vastly outnumbered and are trying to impede progress. They want everyone else to suffer the grind like they did.

Good luck.