How to fix M+ pugging, lack of tanks heals and toxicity

That only matters to the devs. Because they want more money to keep making their game. If the player feels it isn’t worth their time, they will quit.

Yes, people quit for all sorts of reasons.

Give out the best gear to everyone upon hitting level 80, cause people have to have the best gear for whatever reason. How many do you think will keep playing?

Whenever people suggest a change, it’s always “people will quit if it doesn’t!”

And all hail Everquest killer of WOW.

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People exaggerate a lot. I am not concerned with that myself. WOW is a twenty year old game. its pretty stable. But you do need to appease the largest amount of players you can to keep those subs rolling.

And does the collective want something that will bring Blizzard in more money?

Many suggested changes seem to be “when I do this, I can move on to another game.” As if people fundamentally hate playing WOW but some achievements for some reason.

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You noticed that too?

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I believe WOW should refocus on getting people to play in large guilds and groups, that was all that ever kept me interested in WOW. Once the groups got small, I lost interest. I have fun when I play with my friends, the rest of the time I can leave it no problem.

Good news, mythic / cutting edge raiding exists. Go play that mode. High-end key pushing counts too.

I have zero interest in doing that. That would be a group activity, but I run a business and code my own games. I have no time I’m willing to put into that.

So the experience for what you desire exists, but you’re not willing to commit to experience it.

It’s not like Blizzard can do anything else. If you don’t want to play, you don’t want to play.

I like easy mode, I always have. read any of my thousand other posts. It’s never get too easy for me.

Easy mode is not conducive to large guild or group activity.

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It used to be. Reg raiding was fun, and fairly simple / easy. I did heroic raiding through Cata, and all that. But it’s just not worth the time these days. I liked Reg raiding back in BC and Wrath.

Heroic raiding in cataclysm wasn’t simple or easy. Same for regular raiding in bc and wrath.

I thought it was. /shrug Deathwing was a pain with all his phases, but all in all it wasn’t too bad. That’s back when I tried. I stopped that years ago.

Based on your achievements, you did it on pretty much the last day, with max nerf active.

And probably tagged along with a guild that’s been there and done that. Farm is different from progression.

It was later, but it was fun. i don’t think it was the last day, because we did it multiple time once we had it down pat.

Tanks, watch “experts” come and explain how you did bad on a fight 25 years ago,
you cannot makes this stuff up. :smiley:

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Because I was there progressing the fight. And not at max nerf.

It wasn’t “easy.”

It’s ok. I admit I’m bad these days. It was still fun back then. I don’t even try to be ‘good’ anymore. I have other things I put actual effort into.

You did have to have people run back to soak the big explosion on island two I think. that took some timing. It was tricky, but not horrible. I mean yeah we died many times, but we got it done.