Has anyone noticed a difference in the paladins? Paladin is a class that I’ve never played and I’m not interested in it but I still see them excessively in pvp even though they have low equipment they can bust someone with much more equipment than them and this is in general.
I can confirm that this is infuriating.
It makes me want to stab you Paladins even more than usual. 
Some players keep saying they don’t want consistency but inconsistency to liven things up. They say, “Games are boring and keep getting boring because it’s the SSDD (Same Stuff, Different Day).” But when inconsistency happens, they want consistency.
There will never be “true” changes because some players aren’t willing to accept changes unless it works for them. We’re learning how some gamers think. Words aren’t actions, they’re just words, and that’s it, but when actions happen, some players revert to, “We don’t want change!” Why? It doesn’t work for them.
When Ret’s burst is down, they hit other players like they’re holding pillows. When the burst happens, they hit like they have an actual 2-handed weapon. When a Ret Paladin’s burst is down, go after the Ret Paladin. When Ret Paladin’s burst is back up, run away from them… It’s a simple concept. Yet, some players don’t care to learn simple concepts.
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my 2’s 2 ret team struggles with hunters and cc heavy comps like rogue/mage and all teams with healer.
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Exactly, any other spec in the game can be broken for several xpac’s in a row but if ret is good for 1 week time for everyone to cry about it.
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I just gave up trying to argue with people on the arena foruns, most of them are just dishonest, they say they want the game to be balanced, but in reality they are just butthurt that the spec they hate is really good now, proposing nerfs like reduce all Ret dmg by 40%, remove bubble, remove or reduce everything, some of them are being disingenuous spreading incorrect information about how some abilities work to make it look stronger than it really is, desperately pushing for nerf, it is just pathetic at this point.
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Tell me why judgement dispel should stay in the game. Just so we aren’t spreading misinformation.
Tbh i also think judgement dispel should be nerfed, i think an icd would be enough.
What i’m talking about, for example, some people were claiming the judge dispell did not proc UA, when it does. there are other examples but this is the most recent i remember.
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You think ret’s got the market cornered on listening to people cry? Demon Hunter, hold my beer…
Tell me, how many days total has ret been above demon hunter in arena, M+, or raid rankings since DH was introduced? 10 maybe?
I’m not saying DH doesn’t catch hate,but our complaint is that ret catches hate and demands for nerfs, even though/when the specs isn’t good. It’s irrational hate.
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Dusted this guy off last night. Very fun indeed. Yet an ice mage slowed me and shattered me while I trudged towards him.
Fun and powerful but also like every other toon if challenged properly can by defeated.
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I’m of the same opinion ret is fine where it’s at right now great at soloing dumb heroes who think they can come and burst on me with no regard, counters for ret are focus him down and tunnel them becuz survivabilty as a ret with no heals is pretty much game over also spam slows cc stun lock are all adequate counter measures
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Funny, that’s exactly what all the rets said before the nerfs last week!
Ret is absolutely not fine where it’s at right now. Nerfs inc for sure
^ you are literally describing ret gameplay:
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That’s the meta at the end game right now though rogue can literally stun lock me and chunk me and I have to time defensive’s pretty on point to have a chance, hunters are just like ret in the fact that’s it’s really a question of who gets their burst off faster, locks are aids on my screen basically with all their minions and fear slows like it’s a really bursty meta endgame in pvp so taking all of that into contact yes I do think rets are performing quite well but nowhere near what was the case wen they released this last recent patch the nerfs they applied have brought it into more of a level playing field
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This is amazing, ty.
What is the counter to this again?
I personally never used that tactic mainly because of the fact that I view bubble for me as the last tool I use as a defensive and the room for error using this particular tactic is far too high for my comfort, in that original thread though there seems to be aplenty answers to that particular question.
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327 win streak says you might be doing it wrong then.
How about judgement auto dispelling everything, that seem balanced to you?
Why nitpick on certain mechanics that are in game and shared across dozens of classes and specs instead of asking asinine questions that you have gotten answers too. I can sit here and complain all day about getting cc trained till I’m useless but I do not I strive to improve and look for other solution that are present in game, you have 2 other teammates in 3s feel teamwork makes the dream work
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Name one other class spec that has wings + bubble mechanic
That’s a pally specific talent and choice that unfortunately the devs have tried and failed to balance around but the key word is they are trying do they get it perfect ofc not but it’s what these forums are for and for someone crying about it so much you should take the time to think of a proper way to replace or outright change the ability and present what you come up with but to sit there and cry over spilled milk makes no sense to me for example if they wanted to reintroduce a dmg reduction again for when bubble is active perfectly within reason and up for discussion