Genuinely looking for advice.
My understanding is the stacks grow when the rogue is within 20 yds of you, increasing shadowstrike damage and you see a debuff.
So against RMP what can you do?
Getting rogue out of stealth ideal but not easy to do.
Moving 20 yds away also not easy to do for some classes and of course you are still dealing with the mage and healer.
Example, was playing MW/RET/WARR. lfg no comms.
Ret and warr were hitting mage. I see dagger stacks on me so move around the map. Mage is controlling positioning so my melee were prob gaining stacks. I got cc’d and rogue opened on the warr and killed him in under 1 second before anyone could react.
In a second game we survived the opener, rogue got a restealth and did whatever until had another go with dagger in the dark and again got a kill in about 1 second by himself without any damage from the mage or healer.
I mean, wtf do you do against that? The 100-0 is just absurdly quick.
Using defensives pre is hard to time and you could easily waste a major cd…rogue just wait it out or go for a team-mate.
2 Likes
Do like a bunch of players and line the xpac. Is the only way to win.
26 Likes
Mans got a point, rogue can’t get ya if you never login
16 Likes
Queue wit 2 pallies and tell them to spam flash of light within 20 yards of you
both of them slowly orbit you in clockwise faction 5 yards after each cast if they have enough haste for the animation to last after they move
you reroll rogue and do it to others until all arena players becomes rogues
1 Like
Looking forward to the bad*ss ninja duels.
if you allow a rogue that you know is within 20yd of you to sit in stealth for 10s without knocking them out and screwing up their opener you probably deserve the extra damage.
1 Like
Yeah fr, so easy to pull Rogues out of stealth if you don’t have aoe.
4 Likes
next to no one uses DITD, particularly at high ratings. CB and duel are far more useful for securing a kill because they don’t take 10 seconds of you giving away your position sitting in stealth while your teammates are getting opened up on. it’s extremely niche and very easily countered. if you manage to have a comp with 0 spam aoe or flare or anything to prevent this, congrats, you’re the like 7% edge-case where DITD might be marginally useful.
1 Like
Lol going back to line the convoke 5head strats I see.
3 Likes
Not saying it’s amazing, it’s still a stupid design. I can spam Mindsear all day and not pull a Rogue. Just because you can spam an aoe doesn’t mean it’s gonna get them out.
3 Likes
So give some specific advice then? I still haven’t received any in this thread.
2 Likes
aoe them out of stealth or ignore them and spend the 10+ seconds they’re wasting hovering around in stealth doing nothing opening on their teammates to force them out.
Start putting money into a 401k.
4 Likes
I wish I knew 
I went 100 to dead in 3.1 seconds from a rogue that opened with a 17.7k shadowstrike. https://imgur.com/a/zexWlZU
The amount of damage modifiers for that one ability is ridiculous. 100% from 10 stacks of DitD, 10% from Cold Blood, 50% from Rotten Appetite legendary, 12% from Nightstalker. I don’t know if they’re additive or multiplicative but regardless I’m curious what happens to the second Shadowstrike if weaponmaster proc’d? would both of those had hit me for almost 18k? At least in the beginning of the expac they had to be Kyrian for the Echoing Reprimand bs.
1 Like
Some1 ban all classic characters from retail forums pls.
11 Likes
This. And hidden alts 
be a man/woman and post on your mains
2 Likes
Yes. Just Aoe them out. Geez, I am so happy someone thought of this idea. /s
This has a 20 yard range, the rogue can move when you move and you have to be so lucky to actually hit them out of stealth.
Anyone defending this garbage cheese is clearly benefiting from said cheese.
2 Likes
Aye thanks my guy found another idiot to slap on the ignore list 
1 Like