It won’t be working at all on launch.
So in other words youre a sweaty gold buyer who respecs every time you step foot outside a city for whatever reason.
Yeah many people are bad.
Them being bad does not invalidate DS.
DS means I don’t have to change my bars again, and I can just do it at will. I have friends who log on and then say “hey lets run instance” and im mid farm and in pvp spec.
DS allows me to just head over to the instance instead of being a hinderance needing to run back to the closest city to respec for a few instances.
You say the ability to do it on demand changes a lot, so what does that entail? What is “a lot”.
Now where did I insult you?
You lack a rebuttal and then just decide to call me a gold buyer? ![]()
Edit: like actually, if I was buying gold, THEN WHY AM I FARMING? Actual tool.
You just described numerous gameplay changes in your post itself.
Literally when you said “i’m mid farm and in pvp spec and my friend wants to run a dungeon”
and then suddenly you just use dual spec to respec to PvE spec to run a dungeon right then and there instantly at no cost wherever you are in the world.
^ That is a major change, before you would’ve had to make the intentional choice to say:
“I’m already in PvP spec to farm, my friend wants to run a dungeon, I don’t wanna go to the city and spend 50g to respec, then pay another 50g to respec back after just for the dungeon, so instead I’m just gonna run the dungeon in my PvP spec since that’s what I am right now.”
That’s a major gameplay difference.
changing specs anywhere in the world is not “classic vanilla feel”. period ![]()
We also wont have 50g on launch so it doesnt need to.
You lost.
like I told you before, give these people an inch and they’ll take a mile
blizzard said “dual spec will be implemented at some point in the future” so now they’re abandoning their line about 50g being sooo expensive. they are revealing their true motive: to be able to change specs wherever and whenever they want, thus changing vanilla game play irreparably. that’s what it’s ALWAYS been about. the gold issue was a lie ![]()
100%, the goal posts are being moved.
Yes that is how dual spec works.
No not at all. I already told you what I’d do. ![]()
I’m going to go respec because hemo sword rogue is the not the same as combat daggers rogue, in any capacity.
All you’re describing is “Dual spec is going to make changes that are 100% expected of dual spec to do.” which yes, that’s why we want dual spec.
So again, what is “a lot” other than exactly what I already expected and support?
your first respec costs 1g
you don’t even play this game ![]()
What exactly is that? Describe it. If it exists, surely it’s describable and recreatable.
Be careful now, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOU VIEW TBC AS RETAIL.
So describe it, in a way that only applies to era and can not be applied to TBC, and is somehow also taken away with DS allowing one to change out in the world. I’ll wait.
Quote me.
I never once said it was too expensive.
I think you’re just being intentionally obtuse now.
When it’s been explained multiple times, and you just keep asking “Well explain it!!”
After ignoring every explanation, that’s where it starts to look like just arguing in bad faith.
Read my post, that explains exactly how it’s different from the Vanilla gameplay, and I explained that literally breaking down the situation in your post.
If you’re not getting it yet, I think you just don’t want to understand because you’d rather keep arguing your point instead.
May as well add summoning stones. Or RDF with insta summons inside the instance.
Classis isnt meant to be convenient.
Because all you’ve explained is that dual spec will do exactly what dual spec will do.
“It allows you to change out in the world!” Yes.
This is a do nothing sentence.
Why is it a do nothing sentence? Because you’re saying what is already clearly observed and factual without anything else needed.
“If you change era then it’s not the same” Yes thats what a change does.
I will ask again. What is “a lot”. All you have done is describe EXACTLY WHAT DUAL SPEC WILL DO. WHICH IS ALREADY KNOWN.
That’s not even “a lot”. How does this affect raids? I’ll wait for you to respond with “it allows switching and can force others to do something they don’t want” which will not be done by low tier players because they don’t care, and won’t be done by high tier players because switching constantly takes too much time. The time spent switching outweighs the speed gained by being “more optimal” for the specific fight.
How does it affect pvp? It doesn’t. You shouldn’t be able to switch once a game starts, and out in the world is moot because one can already switch before going out into the world. The “element of having dedicated pvpers out there” doesn’t exist to begin with because one can still change before going out.
How does it affect the game? You have yet to describe it other than basically telling me that Dual Spec will do EXACTLY WHAT IT ALREADY IS SUPPOSED TO DO, then chalking it up as “its not vanilla” when it’s not aimed at being a 100% recreation of vanilla to begin with. If that’s what you want, the best you can get is the ALREADY EXISTING ERA SERVERS, or go private server.
Talk about arguing in bad faith when you have a critical misunderstanding of what I am even asking by saying “Describe ‘a lot.’”
So your rebuttal is slippery slope? It’s funny that you’re the one bringing it up in the first place.
You insult me, then you try to force your own headcanon fallacy onto me.
Funny how weak you people are.
This ain’t classic. This is fresh classic with changes.
Wake up to reality.
If you want to sleep in the past era servers are that way ------>
I see you out here liking posts and hiding like a coward.
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Come on now, you like to open your mouth but you hate handing out proof.
It’s the only argument they have, if they acknowledge that only some people were complaining specifically about the gold cost then they have no rebuttal left
Hey guys.
So now that dual spec is here, or rather confirmed but will be implemented at a later date, how do we feel it should work? Should it be a 1 to 1 to the current dual spec? Anywhere, anyplace, anytime? Or do we feel like it should be modified in a way so its only changeable at class trainer/major city? OR, something else?
Thoughts? Let’s discuss folks
Here are my thoughts, if you can do it anywhere anytime then the cost of it should be equivalent to the level 60 epic mount purchase. If it is dirt cheap say under 100g the swap should be only usable in Stormwind, Ironforge, Darnassus, Orgrimmar, Thunder Bluff, or Undercity.
You didn’t give me a single reason that it would be bad to swap on the fly anywhere, like at least give me one.
In SoD rogues can swap to sub, hit preparation, and then swap back and have all their CDs.
It’s ridiculous.