I mean common sense does exist, but you have a point. So do you have any evidence that majority don’t want it?
If I had to bet money, I would say quite a few want it, quite a few don’t really care that much, and very few actively don’t want it
hhahhahahhahhh good one
See that’s the thing about me not claiming “the majority of players do not want dual spec” except out of sarcasm to make the point that there is no factual evidence for or against either claim.
I don’t have to provide evidence… because I’m not making the claim. It’s one thing to ask for something … I have no issues with people asking for dual spec. What I do have a problem with is people making false claims and attempting to convince people using those false claims as evidence in order to have something implemented.
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So you’re making unproductive posts? That’s not a really a great way to convince others of your stance. Oh well.
Whats funny is that there’s like 5 people here religiously bumping every dual spec thread, trying to artificially make it appear like their spam means there’s a huge majority support… when its just a handful of trolls spamming. Remove those muppets from the forums and these threads would disappear.
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Have a nice day buddy, not taking the bait.
It would be interesting to see a poll to see the actual support once and for all.
But last time blizz threw out statistics after HvH bg’s everyone that was against HvH just said the numbers were fake so /shrug who knows
The poll would need to be in game, and not just “oh we implemented dual spec and everyone used it so everyone wants it” like they did with HvH battlegrounds.
Doesn’t Blizzard submit surveys regularly?
Not in game, they are usually in an email, which is not the best way to survey the population of your video game.
Even if it’s not the best way, is it within the realm of possibility that they make decisions based on the results?
It would still be biased, someone who wants something to change is much more likely to respond to a survey which requires them to see the email and respond to it (that person is likely on the edge of their seat waiting to be surveyed) versus someone who is content with the game as is.
Hence why these polls on 3rd part websites are all not legitimate… why would someone who doesn’t want dual spec look around on the internet for polls asking for dual spec to be implemented?
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Regardless of any biases, does Blizzard make decisions based on the data?
They re-released OG Vanilla because of 3rd party websites, right?
the only thing that has changed is my prediction of what actiblizzard will do. but nice try.
I’m not sure? Can you point to any single time that blizzard has polled players, implemented a change to the game, and then advised that they altered the game due to the results of a poll?
Also I’m not sure why they implemented classic in the first place, it could be that they were in danger of losing their rights to the IP (though I’m not privy to the complexities of copyright law and what goes into that). It could be that they were pressured by the community to do so for about 9 years (since cata). It could have been due to lost income from private servers, or perhaps a combination of all those reasons.
Why else would they collect the data? Just to sit on it?
Data collection has become the most important modern commodity. Or, at least, it’s becoming that way.
Yeah data collection is important, what’s also important is how you collect that data. If you are collecting data you want to collect accurate data… because inaccurate data would do you no good… hence why I’m suggesting they poll players IN the game they are polling players for information on, as opposed to sending people emails without notice.
Whether or not the data is accurate isn’t really the concern, though. It’s more the fact that they’re collecting it in this manner. As you said, they usually do it by email.
This is their chosen method which entails they seem to believe it works regardless of what anyone here might think otherwise.
The root at what I’m getting at is that polling data matters insofar as Blizzard believes it matters. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be sending out surveys or asking for feedback.
Does that make sense?
It makes complete sense, but I would argue that blizzard has literally driven the game into the ground with their decision making. They also actively avoid interacting with their playerbase and have for a long time.
I also don’t believe all players get email polls and to my knowledge I only know of maybe once or twice that they have polled players through emails, and that’s not even confirmed as I’m pretty sure it was someone on the forums stating they had received a poll email about a potential classic + or fresh classic servers.
It would take them a very small amount of time to add a little survey box onto the wow launcher and allow people to check a yes or no box on a large multitude of issues or potential changes… but they don’t… because they literally don’t want to dedicate time to a rerelease of the game. They want to be hands off, regardless of what type of mission statement they put out. The head almost certainly does not talk to the hands.
What do you mean by “driven into the ground” ?
True, but the player-base can be pretty rude.
I think what matters more is that the polls exist and they’re not just floating around in the ether. Blizzard is making decisions based on the data they have. Or, at least, I assume so and they’re not polling people for no reason.
They probably collect data in subtler ways. Like keeping tallies on how many players used a boost and how many players didn’t. They’ll make projections based on that.
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