How much fuss do we need to make for the D/E button and other QoL changes?

With such an overwhelming amount of people that would rather have the disenchant option than not, what the actual f? I get that it’s not the end of the world but it’s absurd how they’re making it strangely difficult for people to access enchants. I can’t wrap my head around how or why they give so few regards about the community when valid concerns or quality of life suggestions are made by hundreds if not thousands of players.

Again it’s not like it’s the end of the world but what’s the point in making it so garbage? I had won two items in ZA and figured I could give them to the enchanter to DE, but sure enough you can’t even trade them to get them disenchanted like other items. Are the ZA and ZG instances not heroics? It’s been made abundantly clear by multiple people across multiple platforms which QoL changes we’re upset about not existing and the complete lack of communication is pathetic.

Small indie company though what do you expect.

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Something tells me that you didn’t play Cata (original) or any of the Classics. You’ve been spoiled too much by retail, that you want things that didn’t exist back then to exist now. If you want better QoL and retail enhancements, then go back to retail.

You would not have survived anything back in the day. From not having a mount until level 40, to not being to fly at all until Burning Crusade, enchants not being bound to vellums, etc.

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I think you’re the one that didn’t play Cata. The disenchant button came with ICC. A year before Cata launched.

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How you gonna DE if you not an enchanter. Get outta here. Stop making the game so blended.

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The de button is a bit angering for the enchanter since it an unpaid service.

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The DE button was added because enchanters would role on loot just to destroy it.
When someone whines about “unpaid service”, all I hear is:

“Waah! waah! Boohoo! I don’t have an excuse to be a loot ninja anymore. :sob:

So yeah, the “poor things” can just F.R.O. and try listening to the music from the world’s smallest :violin:

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Gaining access to someone’s profession skill with no autonomy on the part of the enchanter is utter nonsense.

Any character I’ve had enchanting on I greed on items I don’t need like anyone else.

If people are need rolling for greed, that’s just ninja looting and a separate issue entirely.

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What? The DE button is a feature from last expansion.

I don’t care about your silly complaints, features that were in the original game should be in the Classic re-release.

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This

100% this.

Adding void storage to this

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It’s not a silly complaint. Even in the original game forcibly utilizing someone’s profession
without their input or consent is a bad change regardless of semantics. This has not been a no change experience and I am completely fine with them leaving this not implemented.

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Isn’t that something vote-to-kick can help solve?

:woman_shrugging:

Even though I have almost never leveled enchanting (since maybe OG TBC), I agree with this take.

How are you forcing them when they don’t need to do a single thing? It was automatic, they didn’t have to do jack sh*t. People love to come to the forums to flame people regardless of how valid or how well written their topic is. Point and case the uneducated people commenting without a clue what they’re talking about, but sure act like they do have one. It’s not like the item went into their bag and they had to do anything, it was a button like any of the other 3 choices and everyone went on their day.

Let me ask you a simple question that’s one of the closer comparisons… Do you think it’s fair for me to charge someone to summon the archaeology boss when nobody else can? That’s a real question and I’d love to hear the answer. Nobody else has it and they can’t summon without me so why should I feel obligated to help anyone in my party? Not like it takes any real effort on my part but according to your logic nobody should be able to piggyback my proffs.

I’m not sure why you’re so angry.
I didn’t flame anyone, I stated my opinion as the other people in this thread have which I have every right to.
Arguing from a position of authority is meaningless. I’ve been playing the game since alpha 20+ years ago, I know a little bit more than jack sh*t.

I didn’t like the change when it was implemented originally and I’m happy it was removed and I’m happy it’s not implemented in classic.

As far as your comparison, yes, I think it’s fair. You have autonomy over your character, the choice to summon or not summon something is your choice to make.

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I will bite the red herring. If we weren’t nice we could just hold up the entire group and get until we get paid. Then we get booted. In ZG case the chance of getting another arch is low but not worth our time. In the enchanter case, we risk being booted but most the time we tend to withhold our services since providing the service drops the market price.

Tone doesn’t go through text. I’m blunt and perhaps illiterate when it comes to getting my point across in a way that doesn’t sound “angry”. Nobody is required to hold a door for someone before it shuts on their face behind them but it’s just something most people do as a courtesy and a considerate person. It used to be a fairly common practice on Ashkandi for enchanters to ask their group if they wanted anything D/E before disbanding. Either way you answered my simple inquiry and that’s more than I could ask of many on the forums.

The DE option was baked into RDF when it launched.

Blizzard has been super passive aggressive about it because something something socialization. More likely they’re just too lazy to make it work properly.

They had to level enchanting. And most people level enchanting to make some extra gold. The fact that everybody with the DE option, can turn purples into shards lowers the price on shards. Thus hurting the gold making capability of enchanters.

I 100% understand why enchanters don’t want that added to the game.

Personally I don’t care one way or the other. I have 2 enchanters myself “both my pally tanks” but I don’t do it to make gold, I just do it to supply my own enchants.

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You’re not exactly stealing someone’s disenchanting services when you can’t trade cross realm anyway.

Sure you are… what do you even mean?

If 3 players from Pagle get into a group and get to use a person from Bene DE and they get 3 or 4 shards in the run. They come and put those on the AH that’s hurting the Pagle DE market. Those 3 or 4 shards would not be in circulation without the leech.

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“stealing disenchanting services” is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

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