10/29/2018 06:33 AMPosted by MedaaxThen dont call it LFR.
uh...can we call it 'joe'?
Would that stifle the petty childishness about it in here if we just call it something else?
Something about roses and names and all...
uh...can we call it 'joe'?
Would that stifle the petty childishness about it in here if we just call it something else?
Something about roses and names and all...
People are doing stuff without you!! OMG. They don't need to suck up to you to get into a raid. I'm so sorry <comforts> your game was killed because other people choose to do stuff that didn't involve you.
It's ok.. there there.. Have a cookie.
It's ok.. there there.. Have a cookie.
10/29/2018 07:17 AMPosted by BlascoWoW is no longer as addicting as it once was. You no longer have to commit time or effort to see content, because why would you? Why step out of your comfort zone when you can just LFR? Why deal with the inconvenience of dedicating some time, meeting some people, and learning some mechanics when you can just LFR?
heh...did ya see another posters comment about IOraider or whatever being used to KEEP PLAYERS OUT of his guild/raids?
With that sort being what we'd have to deal with just trying to 'real' raid, I seriously doubt many of us want to bother dealing with it.
So yeah its a TIME thing and its also the elistist ATTITUDE problem.
I play more than 10 hours most days sitting here waiting for a website to need fixing or something, so I have the TIME to 'real' raid...but I have NO desire to deal with the sort of elitist joker I mentioned above. None at all.
This is a GAME. Im not making it any MORE annoying for ME than it already is. Easy enough?
When the attitudes of the elitists get better, then we MIGHT see more players willing to try something other than LFR.
But then....you know...theres always that real life responsibilities thing that some folks have who arent living in mothers basement but have spouses, jobs and kids to tend to, so LFR is all the time they CAN afford.
Do you know what my 1st experience with raiding was? It was acting as the tank and having my entire Guild and all the people I was raiding with yell at me over and over and calling me names and insulting me When I was unable to properly do anything about it because of various reasons including the fact that my gear rating was a bit low. My Guild people I thought were my Friends kicked me from the raid and the Guild. I then decided then and there that if this is what the raiding Experience is all about then I want no part of its. They then thankfully introduced looking for raid and I have never looked back. Trying to get people to read through means other than LFR is tantamount to forcing them to sit there and be subjected to all Kinds of insults and toxic behavior that raiding Community is enforcing these days on players who just want to play and have fun with their friends. And that is too much of an insult to and force your Most asinine opinions upon us.
We ALL know how the numbers work here, friend.10/28/2018 05:57 PMPosted by Espur10/28/2018 07:18 AMPosted by AshislashiNo, you were outperforming them because of your ilvl, meaning you do more damage and can take more damage.
Weird that undergeared alts have a higher ilvl than everyone else in LFR. There's no reason for me to bring my main to LFR.
A high ilvl character only needs to fart in the general direction of the boss to do high DPS and we all know it. No skill required.
Get on a low ilvl character and post a thread in here asking how to get your DPS up.
I got $100 bill that says every single player who knows how to play this game says your ilvl is too low.
And since this particular game uses tab targeting, as long as your back isnt turned away from your selected target, youre going to hit, barring some other effect.
As I said, no skill required.
LFR is a way for people to experience the conclusion of a story started in the casual and average player environment. It doesn't need to be difficult, nor does it need to teach you how to raid. All it needs to do is let players see the end of a story, and then move on.
This has already been added to the list of things that have supposedly killed, are in the process of killing, or have ruined the game. You'll need to come up with something original if you want to help that list grow.
This is just a reminder that Blues have said several times in the past that without LFR, they'd have phased raiding completely out of the game.
It's just not economically feasible for them to make Raid content for 1% of the player base.
You should be thanking LFR and LFR players.
It's just not economically feasible for them to make Raid content for 1% of the player base.
You should be thanking LFR and LFR players.
10/27/2018 07:45 AMPosted by SacrosànctThis more than anything else will kill this game, as evidenced by the steady decline in subs over the years.
Brace yourself for the LFR heroes calling me an elitist no-lifer below.
Nope, not going to call you that, I'm going to simpyl point out that LFR was implemented to SAVE the game because raids carried on being the exclusive possession of hardcore raid guilds Blizzard would have stopped creating raids due to the fact they're expensive to create and maintain and outside of LFR the numbers raiding were TRIVIALLY SMALL when LFR was added and likely are no bigger now: Blizzard admitted only 15% of players ever went INTO a raid in Vanilla and only about 5% ever cleared one!
My wife, me, her brother and his wife just started our own guilds maybe last week. Just the four of us right now. Really just for the perks at this point, but maybe might try to grow. I seriously doubt it, but we'll see.10/29/2018 09:54 AMPosted by SãmmyDo you know what my 1st experience with raiding was? It was acting as the tank and having my entire Guild and all the people I was raiding with yell at me over and over and calling me names and insulting me When I was unable to properly do anything about it because of various reasons including the fact that my gear rating was a bit low. My Guild people I thought were my Friends kicked me from the raid and the Guild. I then decided then and there that if this is what the raiding Experience is all about then I want no part of its. They then thankfully introduced looking for raid and I have never looked back. Trying to get people to read through means other than LFR is tantamount to forcing them to sit there and be subjected to all Kinds of insults and toxic behavior that raiding Community is enforcing these days on players who just want to play and have fun with their friends. And that is too much of an insult to and force your Most asinine opinions upon us.
I started them so I have control of both guilds so I can keep any of the elitism from ever being a problem.
Ive adminned forums for many years now and Ive seen the same thing on them no matter what the forum topic is. Elitist snobs who are so obviously starved for attention and trying to boost their own damaged self esteem constantly belittling and demeaning other people just to build themselves up from the curb they are crawling under.
This isnt a WoW problem. Its a HUMAN problem.
The same people who will carelessly change lanes and nearly run you and your family off the road are the same ones who'll act like spoiled little temper tossing children over a video game and you getting what they dont like you having.
The game here has nothing to do with it. Its THEM as human beings that are the issue.
10/29/2018 06:57 AMPosted by MedaaxBecause LFR, and normal to some extent, promotes bad behavior which sets impressions for what players shouldn't and should not do.
So? If an LFR raider wants to move to Normal raiding, worst case scenario they will experience a little culture shock. They will adjust if they want to keep going or they will quit.
I'd argue that LFR at least somewhat prepares a person for raiding. It's better than going in completely blind anyway.
Causals pay the bills.
OP your logic is stupid. If anything, LFR should be making people WANT to join a raid guild, because they will see all the problems with LFR and how they could be solved by joining a raiding guild.
The problem is, you are incorrectly assuming people who only do LFR want to raid with a guild or have the time to.
LFR is a gateway drug to raiding. But sometimes people don't wanna develop a coke habit, they just wanna chill and casually smoke some weed.
The problem is, you are incorrectly assuming people who only do LFR want to raid with a guild or have the time to.
LFR is a gateway drug to raiding. But sometimes people don't wanna develop a coke habit, they just wanna chill and casually smoke some weed.
Um no, to me it's tourist mode where you get guaranteed kill.
I said raid LEVEL as in the difficulty of killing trash and bosses. My original point stands, and as far as I am concerned, you are the one gimping yourself by not using all tools made available to you.
"Flasks are for real raiders only" - said no one ever.
Heroic dungeons are killing WoW because mythic+ exists.
Random Battle Grounds are killing WoW because RBGS exist.
Random Battle Grounds are killing WoW because RBGS exist.
Everything you say about why LFR is bad for the game is true.
100% solid gold truth.
But even then, it's not killing the game. LFR is bad raiding and teaches people to be bad, but it gets people into instances, and that's what matters.
Do I wish we had more community based and less "brain dead" options? yeah, but we don't.
100% solid gold truth.
But even then, it's not killing the game. LFR is bad raiding and teaches people to be bad, but it gets people into instances, and that's what matters.
Do I wish we had more community based and less "brain dead" options? yeah, but we don't.
10/29/2018 05:00 AMPosted by ElaeLFR is raid level content
Um no, to me it's tourist mode where you get guaranteed kill.
EZ mode raiding. The easiest difficulty.
But the "guaranteed kill"... Please link me to your Blizzard source which uses those exact words.
Nah, you just like to use hyperbole to make yourself look better.
Isn't working. You sound so petty.
I just waste 1 hour with a premade raid group
who was trying to kill Vectis in normal difficulty
Now know by personal experience that
you people are worst of LFR by a lot..!!!!
first off you can't even get your thoughts together
since 3 players instruct the group with 3 different strategies
and then when we got our buttz whopped
they bailout like a bunch of crying snowflakes
at least in LFR we don't have to worry for a replacement since is automatic
and then you have the courage to complain about LFR?!
I think blizzard should remove the normal,heroic,mystic raids due the players toxicity
and losers mentality
who was trying to kill Vectis in normal difficulty
Now know by personal experience that
you people are worst of LFR by a lot..!!!!
first off you can't even get your thoughts together
since 3 players instruct the group with 3 different strategies
and then when we got our buttz whopped
they bailout like a bunch of crying snowflakes
at least in LFR we don't have to worry for a replacement since is automatic
and then you have the courage to complain about LFR?!
I think blizzard should remove the normal,heroic,mystic raids due the players toxicity
and losers mentality
raider io is killing the game more then lfr.raider io needs to be banned by blizzard.
I think a lot of people overlook that LFR is always a lazy way to give content to players. There are other ways to give gear progression (and character progression but that doesn't really exist this expansion so far) to players who aren't into raiding.
I think Normal raiding is a perfectly fine introduction to raiding, where the bosses sometimes feel incomplete but are there for players to get their feet wet and push into Heroic raiding. Why can't Blizzard just release secondary / side raids that only have a Normal/heroic difficulty (but are some what easier than the main tier raid) to give some gear boosts to players who are trying to push for better content. It feels like Blizzard is afraid of creating content that players will fail at and have to put time and effort to overcome them.
I think Normal raiding is a perfectly fine introduction to raiding, where the bosses sometimes feel incomplete but are there for players to get their feet wet and push into Heroic raiding. Why can't Blizzard just release secondary / side raids that only have a Normal/heroic difficulty (but are some what easier than the main tier raid) to give some gear boosts to players who are trying to push for better content. It feels like Blizzard is afraid of creating content that players will fail at and have to put time and effort to overcome them.