How is Fistweaving OK

Fistweavers get destroyed by rogues.

Trinket blind then die in kidney. Fistweaving is only OP if nobody is CC’ing/bursting.

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Problem is they’ll go for cc but since the mistweaver plays in melee it oftentimes breaks from AoE

They have to stand in the middle of the map where they can be cycloned off DR with the healcut talent.

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Its annoying to certain comps but is it less or more destructive then protection pallys being queued as a healer?

What doesn’t?

Because the monk has to be in melee range, have 100% uptime on a 15s buff, it’s not smart healing, uhhh

Fistweaving is a joke compared to the current state of disc imo

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Do agree it would be healthier if monks healed from range primarily but had some cds to enable them to do damage and they can weave in and out…basically something like wod way of the crane.

Doing nothing but fistweaving OR playing a standard mistweave build where you do zero damage seems too much all or nothing either way.

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Is there a reason why the healing isn’t smart?

Would that be too OP?

Yes, it’s due to the fact that it’s guaranteed 150% return on every main offensive ability. The healing would need to be toned down.

It’s actually like 350% in pvp.

You can significantly reduce their HPS by not standing in faeline stomp, I know it can be hard sometimes but multi targets inside faeline stomp is generally when you see the absurd HPS because every blackout kick cleaves 3 targets and with teaching stacks that can mean up to 9 blackout kicks per global.

Feels like a hard counter vs teams just relying on raw damage, especially cleaves, which of course makes it insanely strong into solo que. Kind of have to CC it out of the fight or kill it in a stun (either when its too far from port or port is on cd).

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Yep. I like the play style of going in for melee at times but not all the time

If it makes more ppl want to heal then who cares.

crane should be turned into a smart heal with a noticeable healing nerf and damage on minions isn’t converted into healing

it’s nearly impossible to prevent minions from being on faeline

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Ok for clarity I was playing in 2s. No one was standing in Faeline. We were both damaging the Monk and he did 7.1m healing in a relatively short game where his damage was about 1.5m like my own. So with the same damage output he did nearly 3x my healing as I did about 2.6m healing while he did 7.1m of which Ancient Teachings did well over my entire healing output at about 3.5m healing alone hitting for up to 250,000 healing and averaging at 35,000.

Thats absolutely bonkers. If you think thats ok you have brain damage.

As a comparison my Atonement was also my top healing and it did 2,700 HPS compared to AT at 17,000 HPS. GTFO thats just dumb.

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Having actually messed with fist weaving I can tell you if he was doing that much y’all were definitely standing in his stomp

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No. it’s pretty obvious. Big blue streak across the ground pretty sure I was no where near my DPS. and the monk was not cleaving. Regardless its pretty stupid to have a heal that does 17k HPS sustained unless you counter it. Thats just dumb.

You are an actual moron Bulk if you are going to sit here and say that FW needs to be inside of FLS to do broken healing with AT. Get real.

I don’t like fistweaving because there really is not much as a healer you can do about stopping it. It’s a DPS skill check and if they don’t know how to fight it, you’ll lose. I see you’re speaking mostly about 2’s so idk the meta in that bracket but fistweaving has almost always been strong in 2’s

There’s a pretty commonly known bug that the Blue streak sometimes doesn’t actually pop up due to visual bug

Well thats really special isn’t it. Kinda defeats any argument you can make against it being completely busted.

Also if you are implying that not knowing about a monk specific bug makes me a moron or means I am in FLS then you are as dumb as you look.

Where did I say it’s not busted? You really should stop getting your reading skills from twitter, feeling reading isn’t that useful.

No assuming something is what makes you one

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