I’m seeing the current roster guild has put out to who wants to play what etc. I do not see a shadow priest in the loop- Are they valuable in raids? It’s been so long since I’ve played wotlk i cant remember which is good or bad
They provide replenishment to a limited amount of players which is good, and they’re still useful. But they’re not something you actively stack and I’m pretty sure you can go without having one, but just like now one is a good number to have.
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They do solid dps, provide extra healing through VE and replenishment via VT & Mind Blast. They gain Mind Sear so they actually have an AoE and are pretty tanky overall thanks to the damage reduction on shadow form, self heals and dispersion. So besides DPS they bring:
Raids buffs (fort/spirit/shadow prot)
Replenishment
Extra passive raid healing (VE)
High survivability (good damage mitigation, self healing and fade)
Shadow priests are generally very good in wrath in both pve and pvp.
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Shadow priest is very strong, can do high dps with a good player behind the wheel and bring numerous buffs/debuffs including fort, spirit, replenishment, VE, MC, Misery, etc.
Feel free to play one if you want, highly valuable to a raid, maybe not in the optimal “bring 15 DKs” speedrun comp, but everyone else will be fine with one.
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There is no reason to take a shadow priest in wotlk. They provide no unique buffs that other classes dont.
Other classes do more damage as well.
So there is no point in taking one.
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you’ll want 2 in a 25 man raid
No, you really won’t.
One maybe, but the second one is almost always useless by comparison to other classes.
Shadow Priests are ‘good’ but there are better options all things considered. No wrath raid will ever run more than 1 shadow and 1 disc. Third priests will never be seen during wrath unless you’re in the biggest of dad guilds.
Any class that you don’t bring more than 1 of is a bad bet for wrath as your class of choice.
You want 1, they bring buffs you want and while you can get most elsewhere, they are just the best class to bring them. On top of that, dispersion is very useful for certain encounters, such as Algalon.
The main reason you take a spriest is so you get the 3 percent hit without your boomy needing to apply it. This makes it happen on every mob quickly vs wasting a gcd per mob for upkeep resulting in a quite significant amount of dps loss.
Replenishment optimal comps will already have 2 or 3 others without the spriests, you only need 2 sources not 3 so spriests in this regard is only a extra source if one of the two other dies usefull but not needed.
There decent to have for when a 7th healer might be wanted or a healer misses a raid day by offspecing holy making them one of the more ideal backup healers which is one of the main reasons they are taken. If you don’t want to maintain a holy not disc healing set really having you as shadow is not really idea for the raid comp. the value of that 3 percent spell hit being instantly applied to all vs the boomy needing to do it is not super significant outside of trash class times the loss on bosses is quite minor. As such they are an optional addition for a ideal 25 man raid comp. Norm one not two will be taken to be able to have a offspec healer when needed eg iccs healing dragon where more healers are nice for and gs boosting healing for all healers makes holy among the most powerful healers there.
Yes they are. There are technically better options for dps, but they have good utility with hymn of hope / divine hymn. They are also really good in lich king wisp phase. They’re about middle of the pack in terms of damage.
There was a recent thread about somebody asking for buffs to shadow, so there is a lot of spill over from there trying to push the narrative that shadow is completely useless without the insignificant 200 dps increase buff they’re asking for. You can clear everything with spriest level dps, if you’re trying to absolutely min-max the highest possible dps raid comp you probably only want one though.
They are valuable and you will be upper middle tier with a fun rotation. Enjoy it if you aren’t trying to cave into the FOTM meta
Holy/disc/shadiw is entirely viable and all bring something completely different. And barring yuge buffs there’s nothing in wotlk remotely difficult to the point you’d actually need to min/max to that degree short of super competitive speed runs (which generally seem to be much less popular in Tbc than classic)
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