How does one get M+ title if all the pros and their 100+ alts are taking up all the spots?

A guildie saw yoda’s stream on YT and he had like a billion alts, and all of them are super high rank. I understand its’ account bound, but their characters all take up a spot. How are we to even get close to reaching that when most of it is taken by the same people?

This ain’t fair :frowning:

If you are worried about a ton of their alts holding the title, you aren’t getting the title. It really is that simple. I’m not trying to be mean or rude, but their main is the highest and your main should be equally be as high. If they can reach title with alts, you can hit it with your main. It’s a mentality thing, you have to want it. It’s competitive.

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so them being good at the game with multiple classes somehow means you cant be good on one character?

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Yoda is an incredible player and if you see his vids you instantly can tell his communication skills and game knowledge are top tier… and it shows in his rankings. He also has a hunger to push the limits constantly. He also has 4 other like minded and skilled players who he consistently plays with. When you look at those things it’s easy to see why he is tops and how this translates to alts. It just comes down to these things, if you want to use him as an example.

The good news is he doesn’t have anything inside him that you don’t. You could start building and in time build it up and see how far you can get. Maybe not this season because that takes a lot of time and dedication, but if you don’t limit yourself before you give it a go i feel you can get there at some point. It just comes down to how hungry you are for it. Your first post about it should be to find a team. That’s the difference in mindset. You can do it though.

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So the first step is to either inherit a trust fund, become “disabled”, or become a full time content creator. You can’t hope to beat someone who gets to practice 18 hours a day by only practicing 2-3 hours a day. Second step is your going to need a team of people who play just as many hours a day. So once you’ve assembled your team of people on SSI for “anxiety” you can now start your title journey.

Or just play the game for fun and forget about titles that nobody is going to care about next patch.

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Ok, straight up, you aren’t getting title unless you start the season with that in mind. People who are going to get it were 2200 io week 1. And are now 3250.

Most people just go for portals and vault, and just keep up with IO to be invite-able.

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Doesn’t really matter when you start, you can still get title if you’re good enough to get title

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Lol
/10 characters

This is literally just not true lol.

The people that play professionally put in thousands of hours perfecting routes and pulls and doing the boss mechanics.

Every single player in those groups knows when to use personals, who is interrupting what, in what order the group uses their AoE stops, etc. They are a well oiled machine compared to pugs or even teams that play together but simply don’t have as much time.

It is kinda stupid that these people are taking up 6 title slots. Should just be 1 per account honestly.

well, that is his job. and he seems to be pretty darned good at it.

getting the 0.1% highest score has nothing to do with fairness, and everything to do with time and skill.

oh, and time.

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Alts of non-pro players take up way more slots in the general M+ population. This lowers the average rating way more than alts of pro players raising the average rating.

So, if they made it 1 per account, it would be a lot more difficult for most players to reach the top 0.1%.

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I don’t think that’s true. Your average wow player has 1-2 alts, average pro player has like 10 because they run splits.

Here is the thing even if they weren’t taking up those slots, you still wouldn’t get it because they moved the bar so high. Secondly thank you for backing up what I said on its competitive. You have to want it, aka put the time and effort in aka hours and practice. The title isn’t for everyone.

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How?

You get a higher score than them.

How so?

The awards go to the characters who get the highest scores. That they put more time and effort into it than you’re willing to isn’t unfair.

ehhh, you’re being a bit ignorant to the fact that title has evolved by now to virtually a members only bit with the discord only top players are on, weakauras that are private and not public, only for that small circle… And many of these people have virtually infinite resources such as time, gold, and have been spending since the PTR.
And that’s not even including content creators who are constantly gifted things to enhance their gaming experience, or payed to play…

It’s not simply about wanting it, when this same circle of people have 3-4 characters for normal people to compete in rating with. or world first raiding.
It’s about getting in with the right circles and putting wow before all else. People who want title aren’t being measured by the same things as people who make it their entire life because they have the resources to do that. I’ve gotten title twice now btw.

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By getting as good with your main as players like Yoda are with their alts.

I got title in SL S2 and DF S3. I played SPriest both times; once in one of its worst M+ seasons, once in one of its best. In SL S2 I was 70th in the world among SPriests and in DF S3 I was top 300 among SPriests. The fact is, I did it because I had to play better than the ones below me. You don’t time a 30 Galakrond’s Fall with an Outlaw Rogue in your group by playing poorly.

TL;DR: Literally, get good.

This is incredibly untrue. DF S3 wasn’t long ago and my push group got title that season without needing some exclusive Discord, a bunch of complex private WAs, without having infinite time/gold since our healer had a full-time library job, etc.

If you want literal rank 1 stuff, that may be different, but getting title is realistically possible, if a large investment.

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Let’s say there are total 1,000,000 M+ players. If we say 0.1% (the title cut off) of players are pros, that is 1000 players. So, if they all have 10 alts, that would be extra 10,000 slots.

Even if you say only 10% of M+ players are average and each average player has 1 alt, that would be extra 100,000 slots.

Obviously, average players’ alts are diluting the overall M+ rating way more than pros’ alts.

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At my peak in keys last expac, making call outs constantly reminded me of arena and back when I used to play Counter Strike competitively.

Not sure how I processed those feels. On one hand it was cool to relive that level of game play, but then on the other I was like ehhhh, there’s a reason I’m not this sweaty on video games anymore lol.
I’m the type of person who tends to out grow things early and going back to playing video games like that makes me feel like I’m 16. It would be like if I started playing with toys again.

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Well to quote a famous philosopher… you just have to “Git guud” and be better than the best.

You will never get one of those titles. The best players are all cheating and abuse adderall. They have secret/private weak auras and addons and they sell their UI packages to fund their scripts. They also only play with each other until one of their main classes are underperforming at which point that player is shunned and the other adderall infused player who plays the “meta” class is brought in as a replacement. I’ve seen several Resto Druid mains this season get replaced by Disc Priest players in their core push groups. This season is so incredibly imbalanced and to make it worse you have exactly what you just mentioned. Multiple alt accounts from these groups of cheaters who then sell the accounts to people who want titles. The funny thing is Blizzard knows this and won’t do anything about it and even made it easier for them by how titles/mounts are account bound.