How does it come the Horde gets all the bad story?

They wouldnt tell you the harsh truth if they didnt care about you.

Idk man I’m just saying that everyone claims Horde bias for everything lol

Which nobody asked for.

You wanna play this game? Fine.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/A_People_in_Need_of_Healing

there you go.

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Man, I miss Varian. Inwish Garrosh got his story arc and heroes death. Garrosh and Varian were introduced as equals and opposites.

But Varian ascended and Garrosh? Poor Garrosh was left as a play thing for the writers. I mourn the Warchief he could have been.

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tirion
rhonin
maraad
malfurion
anduin
bolvar

it’s not a hard game to play.
all I’m saying is that like all of your points have an alliance equivalent, the writing is just bad in general, it’s not just the horde.

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Thanks heaps!

Edit: AHA! I see, I’ve never had an orc at that level, which is why I’ve never seen this. Very nice, guess I’ll level an Orc.

Thanks again.

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will be back after Ysera is done.

neutral.

not dead.

came back meanwhile Dranosh is still dead. Speaking of wich.

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he’s in the same state of limbo you complained about for sylvanas :man_shrugging:

human

no.

what came back is the lame king, not bolvar.

maybe.

probably not.

Because red is bad and Blizzard doesn’t know how to make a complex morally grey story from both sides for years. Either you are a genocidal blood hungry monster or a pure, goody goody boy scout. If I sound a bit jaded and harsh it’s because I am obviously a fan of the Horde and if you are then you know what that’s like. :o I mean, unless you like being painted as a callous ruthless monster. Then I guess you’re set.

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I enjoy the Sith Empire. They have actual victories in the story and the quests you do there actually matter. Unlike the Horde where everything falls apart the minute the Alliance enters the scene because they always win.

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Cept in PvP. :3 I guess dominating the plot is a consolation prize for being honor farms.

How is Talanji a feminist token? Or is it just cause she’s a woman? In that case I assume all important male lore characters are male rights activism tokens.

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She was written to replace the male leader. That speaks for itself.

Trading Malfurion for Ysera, especially since Ysera isn’t really gonna be any help going forward
 was just dumb. It’s pure plot induced stupidity, we are trading the Archdruid who helped Cenarius banish an Elemental Lord in Cata just to bring back an Aspect who has done more harm than good in past threat scenarios (Legion cough cough).

For that matter, why haven’t we called in Cenarius? Or Thorim? Or Odyn? Or literally anybody we have direct ties to who could absolutely equal the Aspects in the fight to take down the Incarnates?

The entire basis of this expansion (Aspects vs Incarnates) is pointless
 we still have the Heart of Azeroth allowing us to tap into Azeroth herself, we have first name basis ties to Titan Keepers like Thorim among others per class
 etc etc
 senseless plot is senseless.

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He had alot of strong points but I didn’t share that particular one. I kinda liked Talanji. She didn’t seem to look down on any lore males from what I saw.

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With the exception of Raal all important Zandalari characters who were male were killed. The rest is average strong woman character who share an identical personality.

To be fair most war leaders and commanders are male in the lore, so by a probability basis alone more males will die simply by numbers. I really didn’t see a strong message or statement in her part in the game. Like if there’s a scene or some dialog mentioning her calling men fools or if she said something like ‘if there was more women this war wouldn’t be like it is’ then maybe what you said has some weight. If there is something of that sort lemme know.

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Hes not a troll.
Hes just very passionate yet surprisingly lost about the horde and their story.

Hes been doing this for years. Hes a very notable character on the EU forums.
He even has a youtube channel where he shows his face while talking about this stuff. Thats how i know hes not a troll.

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And? Anduin replaced his father? It’s how monarchical succession has been working for quite a while in many places around the world too. It might’ve been a move to appease feminists if Talanji had an older brother and her father had decided to skip him in the line of succession.

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That’s kinda the note I got off of it. Frustrated and wanting to vent, and a personal annoyance cropped in. It is fair to say Blizzard has let political overtones and personal biases rule their writing in some circumstances, but for Talanji I don’t see it here.

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