RNG has never been my friend in game or IRL. My dad always tells me if it weren’t for bad luck that I’d have no luck at all. In the first 4-6 weeks of raiding, I joked that I would be taking my lvl 80 blue weapon into Ulduar, hoping that the statement was just being hyperbolic and won’t actually happen, but it turns out that is actually the case. 15 weeks later and I’ve seen a weapon upgrade drop twice. Lost both due to low rolls, one to a PuG and the other to someone who couldn’t out DPS the tanks. I’ve already gotten a whisper from a P1 BiS toon in my guild saying if he sees a certain weapon drop he’ll roll against me for it, but he’ll pass on the next one. I told him I don’t care what he rolls on, it’s not like I’d win a roll anyways. The only time I have won a legitimate roll since Classic (VANILLA) dropped, was week 10 of WoTLK raiding, but it was ninja looted to the raid leader’s guildmate. The gear I do have was either purchased with badges, bought off the AH, or nobody else needed and was going to be sharded.
I just… don’t know if I can do a 16th week of this. To those who don’t raid. What do you do? Run Heroics? Farm gold? Level alts? I’m sick of RNG.
faced iconicus the other day(a reknown rank 1 warrior) in 2s and his paladin had 2 fears miss while icon resisted 1 kidney shot
pretty disheartening having bad RNG against a player that is already better than you
I would not personally be in a guild where someone cares more about a minor upgrade for themselves, rather than a major upgrade for the raid (ie letting someone else replace their blue weapon when they themselves haven’t been lazy). I don’t know your situation, but if you’re so dispirited it’s not fun to play, if only because you feel like you drag the raid down, then tell your GM/officer, and if they are like “well that’s just how the world is sometimes,” then find a new guild that cares - they are basically telling you to quit anyway since they aren’t making effort to keep you.
That’s rough. And really, I feel your pain. As an Enhancement Shaman in Phase 1, I had very few options for decent weapons. Spellpower is very strong for us because many of our attacks are spell-based, and a significant portion of it is converted into attack power via talents anyway. It’s also very important for us to use the slowest weapons possible, and to have them both the same speed and perfectly synced at all times. Literally, my only decent option for pre-raid BiS was the abnormally slow Titansteel Spellblade. The next-best weapon is a weird level 79 mace from Kalu’ak.
I think it took me a good solid 2 months of Naxx before I got my BiS weapon, Wraithstrike (4% drop rate from Maexxna 25). But I was upgrading from a 2.50 swing speed to 2.60, so my offhand had to be changed as well. To this very day, I still have not been able to put an epic item in my offhand because the only suitable weapon from raids is a fist weapon that drops from Naxx 10 trash. I’ve PUGed it every single week and begged every raid to pull more trash. I literally needed nothing out of Naxx 10 for main or offspec except for this one damn trash drop. I endured more than one disastrous Naxx PUG that took 5+ hours searching for it and I still never got it.
And to make things worse, for most of Phase 1 after getting my BiS mainhand, I was using like the third-best offhand. The second-best is a drop from Lavanthor in Violet Hold. I ran that dungeon 30+ times trying to get the weapon. It dropped once and I lost it to a Shaman who was playing entirely “wrong”. I did eventually get it, but only a few weeks before phase end on the 35th run. And Phase 2 is looking to be somewhat similarly awkard to gear.
Honestly? It can get to be pretty upsetting. I also feel somewhat cursed. Every time something really cool drops, it feels like my rolls are horrible. That, or nothing cool ever seems to drop while I’m present. But at the end of the day I just try to laugh at my situation and joke about my disappointment with my guildies. At the end of the day, it is a game, and it definitely sucks to feel like luck is always against you, but I think it helps to just remind myself that I’m still going to enjoy the game even if I don’t end up getting the drop(s) I’m looking for. If you end up getting too upset or disappointed over the bad luck, I think you should either try to reframe your perspective on why good luck is important, or maybe even consider taking a break from the game if that’s too difficult.
As far as this kind of stuff goes, I’d highly recommend finding a guild of your own. A group that you feel you can trust. I know that’s way easier said than done, but you may be surprised to learn how much guilds are struggling to fill spots at the moment. Put yourself out there and be weary of the company you’re in until you feel like you can trust them.
Actually, I find that it’s a lot easier to deal with bad RNG when it’s people you like and respect that you’re losing your rolls to, or maybe their gear is dropping instead of yours. There’s a certain sort of zen in being happy for other people when you see them enjoying good fortune. It helps a lot if you’re not playing with the sorts of people who will look at loot and say “Wow, this is AWFUL loot” and complain all the time. That sort of toxicity can rub off on you.
You ain’t the only one with ill luck, I once joined a SRx2 MS > OS pug Nax run and lost every single roll. I suggest you join a guild with EGPG, DKP or suicide kings loot system
How do I cope? By reducing the RNG.
For the first 9 weeks of Naxx, I made sure I was the only one in the raid that would roll on the KT weapon I needed. Took 9 weeks but it eventually dropped… Twice in a row…
In 9.1, as rogue main, I’ve killed Sylvanas + max SoD vault basically since week 1. I never got the dagger from her.
Ive seen people get double dagger Edge of Night in 2-3 weeks.
In Wrath, this druid, has run over 500 dungeons in Wrath and I never got a single mount. I got over 200 Anzu and MGT clears on top of that over the course of Wrath and TBC.
Took me, easily, 100+ hours of fishing to get turtle and rare catch.
And we did 8 bosses in Ulduar and only 1 fragment dropped.
Ty for the response. I’m not glad to see someone else with the same black cloud over them, but it is sorta nice to know I’m not alone. I may have to take a break like I did back in Vanilla. It was just before AQ released and I hadn’t won anything up to that point either (that wasn’t passed on by everyone else). Here I am with the mentality of “we should probably gear up the tanks and healers first” as it will make the raid easier / better for everyone else, and am happy when those folks get stuff, but it’s just demoralizing to go in week after week after week after week and either don’t see anything you need drop, but when it does you lose every time. In this expansion alone I’ve seen someone gear 2 different specs on 3 different toons to the point of having a higher ilvl than mine. That’s 6 gearsets for that ONE person that are all better than the ONE gearset I have and have spent countless hours working for.
I’m either done raiding, or I’ll just farm gold and leave the guild I’m in to run GDKPs as others have suggested.
And to address another point made by someone else in the thread, I am consistently top 3 (usually top 1 or 2 on most fights) on DPS. To compensate for never getting / winning gear I optimize myself in other ways whether that be changing professions to get engineering / JC, or just honing / practicing my rotation and lining / tracking CDs in order to perform better. I don’t feel like I’m holding the group back in any way.
Fishing , fishing is super chill where you can just zone out and click on the bobber and listen to a podcast or music and just chill out. Fish also make a ok amount of gold.
Get into PVP, you don’t need to go after that rank 1 2400 arena master title but having full control of where your points go and not relying on rng is a breath of fresh air compared to much of the pve/loot distribution methods
Well now I’m convinced there’s a GM watching me lol. I was invited to a naxx 25 skip (just last bosses). A weapon that I’ve never seen drop in 15 weeks not only dropped, but I was the only person who needed it, and I rolled a 100 and was the only roller. So ummmm. Thank you to whichever game master loaded my dice. Thank you for taking pity on me.
Up until Legion in retail, All the gear I wanted, I got in a short amount of time. I got my legendary mace in MC, I got glaives in TBC, I got Shadowmourn in Wrath, and so far this time around…I can’t roll past a 50 to save my life, I have to win things from soft reserves and usually lose the roll if someone else SR’s it…I just figure, I had luck at one point, this is my reward now? ;x
, fishing is super chill where you can just zone out and click on the bobber and listen to a podcast or music and just chill out. Fish also make a ok amount of gold.