They are the only ones who kept the culture alive while the blood elves sucked mana like vampires and tossed all the nobility they had in the process.
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I know you donât like the actual story, but thatâs what weâre discussing.
âYou think I do not know what I am? We sinâdorei were given a choice: our integrity or our well-being. As if that were any kind of choice at all. I chose my well-being. My wife chose her integrity.â
That is the story. Whether you like it or not.
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Yes. You have one quote of one elf from a kinda icky passage of a story. Weâve seen it.
Icky or not to you. It is lore. The blood elves gave up their integrity.
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I donât think you can turn off the Void. Itâs supposed to be permanent and rare since the process kills most that try it while leaving the Void Elf clinically but functionally insane.
In the sense that it is words that one elf said. Not in the sense that itâs a universal statement on the truth of elf existence in that period of time.
Also, really rich coming from you when youâve been finding tons of way other lore doesnât count, or if you pretend you donât know how reading works says what you want it to say.
Lotherâmar himself regretted what he did to the high elves.
This is the line I walk, finally knowing that the actions I take in necessity are nonetheless indefensible.
Coming from the guy who wanted to blame Garrosh and ignore the Hordeâs culpability in everything that happened(while at the same time blaming Garithos on the entire Alliance)? That is just rich.
The lore supports my positions more then it every did yours.
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It seems to me that youâre just bitter over perceived slights on the Horde. As you often mention it as to why you donât want Alliance to get what they want which is High Elves.
Sounds like you should focus on trying to get what you think the Horde should have and not try to take the Alliance down a peg.
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Yes, he regretted what he did to the elves of Quelâlithien lodge.
Want to be specific?
Because generally itâs been that Garrosh is the villain of the Cata-MOP deal for the whole horde, who worked to oust him, so the blood elves staying with the rest of the horde they fought along side to overthrow Garrosh is different from Garithos and the Kirin Tor decided to execute us all for no reason so weâre not going back to the Alliance.
Generally because you ignore everything thatâs inconvenient for you.
Prove to me that thatâs what the Alliance wants. Especially now. You arenât speaking for others here. youâre just trotting out tired tropes of dev favoritism to try and bludgeon support for your continued request even after you got way more than you should have.
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While you ignore everything that was said that inconveniences your narrative.
You mean after he decided to toss the blood elves to the preverbial wolves while they were all so willing to follow him until Garrosh finally turned on them?
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Garrosh went after way more than just the Blood Elves when he took over.
And itâs a shame there was that whole little incident that reinforced Rommathâs statement about the Kirinâtor in Shadow of the Sun.
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And yet the blood elves still returned to the Kirin Tor afterwards. Probably to Rommathâs chagrin.
As for Garrosh, he went after anyone who disobeyed him. Too bad the Horde only turn on their genocidal leaders after they finally suffer the negative consequences of their actions.
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The fact that High Elves are the #1 most wanted race for Alliance is proof enough. They even added in non-blue and purple skin tones as Void Elves were unpopular and hated for it. Most Void Elf players use the other skin tones. Itâs rare to see a purple or blue Void Elf in game.
That was a bandage attempt as Blizzard saw the numbers and got the feedback that just being an Elf isnât enough. Players still want to be a High Elf hence why High Elves are still the most requested Alliance Allied Race even after the Void Elves got those skin tones.
You donât seem to understand the Alliance player base.
Theyâre happy with the simple things.
Itâs why Human, Draenei Female, and not purple/blue Void Elves are the most popular and played Alliance races.
Fact of the matter is that if Blizzard added High Elves on the Alliance they would be one of the most popular and played race. As Alliance players want to play the pretty race and love High Elves.
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Yeah, itâs pretty lazy writing since they couldnât come up with some other magic group.
proof means more than âI want to believeâ
Or its because 1) Blizzard still wanted to show that the Kirin tor could remain neutral. 2) there is only ever so much spotlight and having two mage groups probably would push it.(most of the other order hall/classes do not get as much screentime as it is)
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They havenât done a good job at that
Or more realistically âBlizz is horrible about writing for the horde when they arenât being villain batted so they did like the rest of Legion and defaulted to alliance stories.â
Hereâs a better quote on the topics of leadership and integrity, from Lorâthemar Theron to Halduron Brightwing:
âI refuse to let my feelings interfere with the weight of my responsibility. And I hold fast to a single fragment of hope: the belief that our shared hardship will unite us⌠that our kingdom will not only regain its former glory but surpass it, that we will all learn from our mistakes. True leadership is not about making the right decisions every time. Sometimes it is about pressing on despite having made the wrong ones. You did what you thought best, and you have served QuelâThalas with unwavering courage and integrity.â
This nonsense idea that the blood elves gave up their âcultureâ is so much bunk. They bloodied their hands to preserve that culture, and for better or worse theyâre very much the âblood of the highborneâ.
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I mean, you can literally see that the Kirin Tor is now more diverse then ever with all the Horde races joining it.
The sold out their brethren to get where they are now.
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Yeah, itâs all a weird fanon, where you take a race thatâs turned things around after basically an apocalypse, making some hard choices on the way, and just pretend it was just thrown together with no thought because the asian gfs were sad. Just because some people canât do without pretty elves on the âgoodâ faction.
Again, thatâs the High Elves you love so much.