Just wondering, I never played the 2008 version.
The difficulty is in people asking for you to be ICC geared to be allowed in ICC.
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What GS is required?
Look its garmuck posting another troll thread. Lol
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During original wrath, when ICC was current, I rolled a Druid. The moment I dinged 80, I put together an ICC pug. I was still in leveling greens. Nobody said anything about my gear; they just listed to raid instructions and we cleared (I don’t remember how much; I think we got to Sindragossa. And it must have been normal 25).
Iirc, the Lich King fight was pretty hard, and so only ever got it on heroic in a pug once, and that was on 10 man (also on that Druid, but not that day).
I don’t remember if I ever attempted heroic lich king other than that, outside of guild runs.
I think from memory Ulduar, and more specifically Mim and Yogg, was considered the hardest raid in Wrath.
However, I do think Putricide and Lich King are stand out bosses - and that early in the tier HLK will be an insanely challenging boss by classic standards.
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Current, pre nerf Ulduar HM is much harder than anything we will see for rest of Wotlk Classic, unless they buff ICC significantly. ICC was drawn out by opening 1 wing at a time in original, and we are already doing more dps than we were then in full ICC gear for the most part.
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Yeah it was drawn out and so the later bosses were done with more gear than you’re gonna have in classic.
HLK has 102m HP and a 10 minute zerk timer. He’s also got 4-5 minutes of pure down time.
He’s going to be a very difficult boss for awhile.
If google is to be believed, it’s a 15 minute enrage. And the fight ends at 10%. Algalon has 41 mil and people are killing him in just under 3.5 minutes. Doesn’t seem that crazy.
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Yup, the difference is Algalon doesn’t have 4-5 minutes of forced downtime.
It’s basically 90m HP in about 5-6 minutes. I could be remembering incorrectly, but from my memory it was 10 minutes.
Just looking at wowpedia, I never did it back then.
i remeber that 2-3 weeks in, LFM ICC, Acheive required…lol
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Yeah, I killed everything but LK on normal mode back in OG if I remember correctly. I was with a group that went back to kill him at level 85 in Cata for the achievement, and it was still a hard fight.
Difficult enough to make more than 1 thread asking about it, apparently.
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I guarantee you, that will NEVER happen today. 2008 was a different time, try showing up Ulduar in levelling greens, you’ll get chewed out.
And no, I will not count a GDKP, because they don’t give a damn if you show up naked or not, only that you have money to buy the drops.
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Yep our last Alg kill was 4 minutes, most without full set bonuses from TOGC. Couple Alts in there, so…168k dps.
Well you are a troll anyways and already know the answer, but just incase some actual new player is coming over to Wrath and thinks you are legit and your thread is legit…I’ll humor you with an actual reply which is what you were looking for anyways.
So my answer…much more difficult back in the day than it is this time, reason?
Most of our guides back then were books that we had to buy and read up on dungeon guides from, connections were not as good, our voice chat communication systems were not as good, we had most of us with the item level addon and many of the people who ran the groups were more strict in what they asked for than those who look for GS now days, the YT guides were not as good, the servers were still put into battlegroups so that way if you were stuck on a bad battlegroup and a bad server within that bad battlegroup, your chances of success were near zero. But you already know the answers to absolutely every single question you ever ask on these forums here ever.
So my point in basics,easier now than it was back then. I remember wiping back to back to back in certain dungeons in old WoTLK, I do the same ones this time around…zero wipes.
And yes, you have never not know the answer to a single “question” you have ever asked here, ever.
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I’ll bite.
I’d wager normal modes will be pretty easy and Heroic will be somewhere between Ulduar and TOGC difficulty.
Nothing many of us haven’t done before but sufficiently challenging for the bulk of players to make HLK something most guilds will take about 3 or 4 weeks to get.
The sweaty guilds will get it as soon as it’s available. Probably not in less that 30 min (like ToGC).
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Eh, nothing really difficult outside of
Saurfang is a tank check
BQL is a heal check
SIndragosa can be rough.
LK on heroic is rough.
Rest should be manageable by most guilds.
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And yet you’re so opinionated if the current version of the game.
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