Please correct me if i’m wrong, but monks are staying EXACTLY how they are in PvP right?
This class pumps hardcore right now, just as hard as the other classes who got nerfed if not more. Why does it pump? 70% haste is why. I get that fast punches and quick attacks fit the theme of the class, but honestly no melee class ever should be pumping at 70% haste, unless we are on the last season of the xpac and you fully itemize for it.
And they have MS. Absolute pumpers.
For all the melees, think about the legendary you have right now, your bis legendary. If blizzard made a legendary for your class that gave you 33% haste, say when you pop avatar, or pop unholy strike, or whatever big dmjer cd, would you keep your legendary or drop it for 33% haste? Just to clarify, haste reduces your GCD, increases your attack speed, reduces the cooldown on relevant damage cds, AND increases your resource regeneration.
WW Monks are in a much better state, I’m not asking for them to be put back to rat tier like they were for an entire expac. But no nerf at all? Pls take a look at this again blizzard.
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Monks flying under the radar as busted. Only thing balancing them out atm is their terrible defensive utility. Unless of course you count their ability to outright just run away from you as a defensive (Which it is) then I would say yes they were completely ignored for nerfs.
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WW Monk is the scariest thing for my 3v3 team to face. Seriously pumping. Rogues haven’t even been a problem aside from clear misplays on my part. Maybe warrior is supposed to beat rogue and lose to WW in my TSG, though.
I can’t imagine WW stays like this, but I suppose it’s a nice momentary comeuppance after BFA.
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Nerf damage. Overhaul Karma to not be useless. Give back flying blossom roots.
There, monk’s a lot more fun. 
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WW Monk main here. It’s not even the BiS leggo that’s making us pump. I use Keefer’s leggo for PvP and I do INSANE damage. We really could use a nerf in damage.
I 100% agree that we need karma to be useful again as a defensive ability, have our damage tuned a bit as well.
Yup they are extremely scary. But tbh give any class 70% haste for 10 seconds and they will be extremely scary. 70% haste but still gets to MAX mastery/vers -_-
For the same reason arms, feral, ret, enhance, shadow, ele didn’t got nerfed
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I think I’ve only beaten one WW team in all my games as rdruid/aff lock, and I’ve faced a bunch.
Was watching fnoberz/dakkroth losing to Whaazz’s 22k HP windwalker at 2.2k mmr as well.
The Kirian ability is also making our mastery insane, which REALLY pumps our burst. My sustain I THINK is okay, (though it could be considered high, i suppose) but our burst really needs to be looked at. If a healer is CCed, I can 100-0 someone in a single stun, and if they run…im a fugging monk and will chase them easily.
Not really sure what to change other than just a bit of a % damage nerf. Otherwise, the class feels pretty good to play right now. We lack defensives, but any good WW can kite for a long time to stay alive if needed, so I think we’re okay in that department.
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But there’s a clear difference in dmg output and sustain between arms warr and ww monk vs the others you listed.
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Bro we dks are homies with monks. When monk is strong u r strong. Don’t call out the monk homies like that
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Most arms players are playing pvp as kyrian and the mastery buff was just cut in half. Warriors deep wounds mastery means a base % dmg increase was cut in half. I’m not sure if we read the same patch notes or not but that seems like a nerf.
its not that karma is bad, its just everyone does insane damage karma is good 50% hp shield are you kidding me with a damage modifier added too it.
Beats the hell out of my 20% barkskin
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I’ve been saying pelagos will be nerfed since first time I saw it. I predict warriors mass exodus to venthyr. Condemn is absurd
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we forget about karma and parry fists/ring of peace/disarm?
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Oh stop it. Warriors have far better cool downs
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i don’t really care about the mastery buff as a war as much as i care about holding them down in my brostorm
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