The entire original reason for “Vanilla Classic” was to experience the game like it was BEFORE all of the major quality of life changes… and then some.
MANY of us wanted the original experience before everything was account bound. Before the talent trees became (first) Kindergarten logic, (then) huge dumpster fire-borderline useless.
We wanted to relive the glory days BEFORE Cataclysm and Especially BEFORE WoD, which saw the complete destruction of classes and professions and even the lore.
But no. Now we’ve got these players who think any Expac re-born is “classic”. It’s not. You’re just RE-PLAYING the expansion, as it was at the time. While yes, that is effectively what we are doing with Vanilla/TBC/Wrath, but again, this was before all of the changes that really morphed the game. Need I remind the community of today, just how many subs were lost from Cata into WoD? Millions and millions. Because of the changes that NO ONE asked for.
I’m staying with the Wrath Classic servers and Blizzard would be wise if they either kept the Wrath servers and began new Cata servers or just didn’t go to Cata at all.
Because Blizzard figured out they don’t have to actually do anything but re-release old content and they’ll make millions off of us.
When we get to the end of Wotlk Classic’s life cycle, I will be absolutely shocked if they don’t just continue on with Cata Classic. Not because Cata Classic is wanted or loved, but because MoP was considered good enough by the community that they’ll want to reach it for Classic.
Classic is just a repeat of WoW’s original lifespan. Yes, it will get less and less popular as time goes on, especially as we leave Wotlk and its golden age behind. But Blizzard has to put barely any money into it, and they’re making so much money off of us that it’s not even funny. So they’ll just keep on keeping on.
That’s fair.
I won’t be playing Cata though, and that mere fact alone that MoP was a solid balance that they shredded as they kept going, is quite telling of how much intelligence in game balancing they have. They could have made even more money, if they had just given a damn about the players and not about their stockholders
Speak for yourself. Cata was a fine expansion.
Definitely. But it’s obvious by this point in Classic’s lifestyle that Blizzard doesn’t consider this the ‘do-over’ that you and I might consider it. This isn’t ‘their chance to get things right’, not to them.
Classic is, and will continue to be, a cash cow that they milk to death. When it finally does die off at some point, don’t be surprised if they just shrug their shoulders and say “Well we tried to tell them they didn’t want Classic, but here we are!”
I’m sure I speak for way more people against Cata than you do for Cata.
Everyone likes to take what they don’t like and paint that as the sole reason WoW lost subscriptions. it’s a varied and complex issue and the choices they made might have been the best possible outcome.
~Talent Tree chopping: no one asked for
~CRZ without warning: No one asked for
~Nearly complete lore re-write: No one asked for
It’s not as “complex” as you say. It was MANY reasons. And those MANY reasons reside with the end of Wrath.
No, you’re not. You have no proof that you speak for more people. Cata was extremely successful, only 2nd to the most popular expansion of all time. That is a fact.
OH yeah. Definitely “2nd most popular” expansion.
One simple search of the number of subscription losses for WoW will show you the first million started in Cata. Thanks for playing along tho
At the end of the day people are just like progression process and new (even old) contetn
And 10 million people still played it. That is an absolute, undeniable fact, and no matter how much you want to doom and gloom about it that is reality. People played cata, and people would play cata again.
Because the content from classic to wrath is going to last roughly a year each.
This lie is thrown around so carelessly. Numbers started dwindling during wrath. They went lower during Cata, but saying an inmediate drop in numbers was due to the just released expansion is as feebleminded as the people that blame an economic dip during a newly elected government after years with a mismanaged one.
There’s cause, error and effects but by the way you write logic is not one of your strong points.
The original reason for classic was money. Where did you get the idea it was to experience it all over again or going to be faithful?
Cataclysm lost 1 million.
MoP lost 4 million.
WoD, another 2.9 million.
They made changes, starting in Cataclysm, that NO ONE asked for.
" The current total subscriber base of the popular [World of Warcraft massively multiplayer online role-playing game has now exceeded 12 million players, developer Blizzard announced today. The milestone was reached after the recent launch of the game’s second expansion, Wrath of the Lich King, in China."
The drop didn’t begin until a year into Cata… as they began making MORE and MORE changes
“As of January 30, World of Warcraft had dipped to 11.1 million active users, 300,000 fewer than the 11.4 million they had in May, and almost a million down from their all-time peak of 12 million last October.” -Gamesradar
Gotta let these articles know that their quotes from Mike Morhaime and Greg Street are all a “lie that’s getting thrown around”… yep
If they do Cata , I’m done! Hated it!!!
You keep talking about subscriber losses when I’m telling you that 10 MILLION PEOPLE played cataclysm. Just because something doesn’t stay at the absolute pinnacle of height of popularity does not mean it was not successful.
People played cata. People will play cata again. You are free to play classic era if you want to endlessly relive classic vanilla.
Regardless of how many poorly inferred causes you want to draw to explain a complex process such as large (literally millions) groups of people migrating from a hobbie, Cata is still coming and will be enjoyed by most of the playerbase.
Don’t let it bother you too much
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Thanks for reading INTO my posts and not understanding them simultaneously. Such a useful super-power. My point, yet again, is that CATACLYSM was the BEGINNING of the changes THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR! As they made those changes into Cata, with releases of patches/raids/etc, people began leaving, in the millions.
Continuing on to MoP, when they changed how badges were earned, rep, etc… FOUR MILLION left. Get it yet??