Wizards try to change the Open Gaming License and their community rallied against it.
How come we can’t do awesome stuff like that? We hate each other too much?
Wizards try to change the Open Gaming License and their community rallied against it.
How come we can’t do awesome stuff like that? We hate each other too much?
What needs to be fought for that hasn’t been deemed critical to fight for over the last couple years?
I’m sure there’s other stuff, but there’s only as much as you can demand as a group.
Cuz wow community mostly care about competing and gear thats it
As soon as that community rallies against cringe like dropping the term “race” and removing the Hadozee* race, i’ll pay attention to em.
*If you look at the Hadozee and your mind immediately jumps to “black people” the problem is you.
Pretty sure many people in that community also tried to claim Orcs are a racial stereotype for black people as well. Uber cringe.
Because in that case there was no actual division in the DnD community – almost everyone was against what WotC said they planned to do. There was no division.
WoW is more like real world politics, with two factions on every issue that are tribal and oppose each other. It’s just a completely different situation.
Their community is ten times larger than the wow community. Secondly anybody looking at what wizard was trying to do could see through it… hence why the huge blowback
I’m lost and slow, what did Wizards try to do?
You are comparing apples to potatos here.
DnD is a gaming system, its not a game itself.
WoW is a game, not a gaming system.
DnD is like buying the raw ingredients for baking, you can then bake what ever you want, cake, muffins, bread, you name it.
Wow is like buying a premade cake.
People were upset at wizzards because it was like the store they bought the ingredients from told them that if they make a cake that’s to good, they have to send a slice to them.
Two major factors
First: Blizzard has a very heavy handed mod team who deletes anything that is at all against their “values”. So while for a day or 2 you might see the, for example, Body type posts, the mod team works overtime to delete them. So they are good at silencing opposition. Free Hong King posts are another example.
Second: The way content creators monetize wow vs dnd is very different and Blizzard took the very smart(from a business standpoint) step of directly paying content creators via sub drops.
Preach, Asmongold, and all those other people - no matter what their very hardcore fans think - are not going to go hard on Blizzard and risk NOT being selected for sub drops during the next major release.
So a critical “voice” of the community - streamers with thousands of viewers - end up mute on the subject.
It wasn’t always this way obviously, but it is what it is!
Name a single change to the game that 95% of the WoW community could rally behind.
I’ll wait.
When they decided they were going to remove flying.
It did and Shadowlands was changed and Dragonflight is better for it.
Lizzards of the coast basically updated their open license policy. Where as in past editions a copmany could go out and make things using their licensed IP to produce things that they dont produce. The best example of this would be like a model company making a model of a mind flayer selling it for profit and using the DnD IP name for it.
However they updated it and basically said “Well if you make over x amount of money with it, THEN you have to pay us royalties now.” Which is really bad because a lot of these companies already dont make a lot and whats ironic about this is, the last time they tried to pull this, it backed fired really bad on them and ended up creating their biggest competition.
Lizzards of the coast did this back in…i think 2e or 3e? I dont recall specifically which one, but last time they did it, it was a major reason why/how Pizao came to be with pathfinder, because Pizao pretty much said, “Fine we will make our out DnD with black jack, a hooker, and Lots more power gaming.” And then became wizards biggest competitor.
Black tights for hunters. Who wouldn’t want that? After all, they go with any top.
we did. with RealID.
Was it the outcry or the exodus en masse of paying subs? It’s hard to tell
But aside from that (especially since we’ve had flight in DF from day 1) every other issue I’ve seen brought up on forums or other community sites has fierce criticism and opposition from the various factions within playerbase.
And the other thing that the forums 99 percent rallied behind was using your real name real ID fiasco.
I think we don’t hate each other enough. Perhaps maybe if we rally against each other with so much vitriol, Blizzard will be so intimidated, that they will give in to any request to simply stop the violence.
The playerbase was pretty much unanimously united against forum realid
WoW had a united playerbase early on but by wrath or arguably tbc the game changed drastically and started to broaden its audience. This continued for a decade. WoW isnt like most games as its audience is diverse and at each others throats.
Take runescape and wow content voting. Runescape a playerbase that looks out for its own interests. Wow… wow voted for grimrail because people thought it would annoy mythic plus players the most.