No, I’ve put out my points repeatedly, and it’s clear none of you care.
Your far too fixated on your precious faction war to give a toss about anything else in the world.
So I don’t see the point in repeating myself to someone who clearly only cares about getting his blood lust sated.
I dont get the attraction to sylvanas. She is a rotting corpse. Need vagisil and her skin is probably all damp and decompsing. Would not be surprise if maggots were eating her inside out.
Shes like Nurgle.
No, you really haven’t. Much like the Theramore thing, you just move on to something else after what you post gets debunked.
The Old God shenanigans & Azshara stuff only started happening to a degree “more than usual” after the war started.
The only way for you to get around that inconvenient fact is that by going to an Out of Universe perspective.
You also routinely go around misrepresenting the reasons for the faction wars over time, comparing them to sailing halfway across the world to go attack someone who has no intent to harm you.
Extremely disingenuous post
what if i just want to be bad in the game ?
There is dudes explaining stalin…omg ppl…
I just want to be bad. Just it. Not in real life, but in the game - i want to side with sylvannas and kill everyone like i wanted to side with arthas long time ago…
It’s just a game…not real life…there is no comparisson with stalin or russia or the wars that happened in our history - it’s just a game and we are supposed to be able to side with a good or bad faction…
All zones already occupied.
Well, they did. They invaded Azeroth and pillaged and plundered it’s natives. They weren’t welcome anywhere else but Durotar among the Trolls.
If they were to be left alone and in peace it was their only option.
Not really no.
I still stand by the attack on Theramore was unjustified, especially in the way Garrosh went about it.
And in the end, it literally only made the alliance stronger by cementing Jaina as an alliance character, instead of a neutral party. Good Job Garrosh, still screwing the horde over to this day.
The old God / Azshara stuff has been around for a while, they only simply grew to power and revealed themselves recently, but they haven’t been a non-issue. That’s disingenuous
The sword issue, was a massive issue, before any of this faction war non-sense started, and yet everyone ignores it too.
You literally just want to keep the Faction war going, due to some misplaced sense of righteous indignation that you want to invoke to attack the other faction.
It’s pointless, meaningless, a complete waste of lives, resources, and time, all of which the entirety of azeroth is supposedly low on after a literal demon invasion.
You wanna keep attacking alliance? Fine, go fight till you get your orcish death you clearly want, Personally I hope other people actually deal with -real- issues.
Wow, it’s almost like there’s a solution for those zones being occupied. One that the majority of Orcs would’ve been happy with.
And please, let’s not pretend that Feralas is occupied to the same extent that Ashenvale is.
And by the time Thrall founded Durotar, the majority of people he was leading were the children of those people.
You’re trying very hard to shift this into a logistical argument, but again Thrall literally thought his people deserved to live like that
Why do you not want to acknowledge that point?
Aalgard, I see you are new to the forums, based on your post count. So, WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF WARCRAFT! We’re lucky to have you!
Second, I wouldn’t give this thread much more attention…cos as near as I can tell, this thread is going to continue into a downward spiral of trolling and nonconstructive posts until the moderators mercifully give this a 404.
Finally, I’ll just leave this here:
I literally linked you quest text showing that they were participating in the war effort, you still think that’s unjustified? Are you actually kidding me right now?
You mean bombing it after the civilians had been allowed time to leave the city?
As I’ve already laid out, by the time Theramore happened, Jaina was already firmly with the Alliance.
Thanks for literally proving my point. They’ve been around for a while (which is why I said “no more than normal”) and they’ve been routinely beaten back.
Considering you’re willing to handwave attacks on the Horde by the Alliance, and call counterattacks “unjustified” what is the line in the sand? What does the Alliance actually have to do for you to stop being like this?
I’m Undead, I’m Evil, and I will follow my evil leader wherever she goes so I can do more evil.
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Well If they did something Sylvanas has done this expansion. I might… but really they aren’t.
So I’m fixating on actual issues right now.
And I will continue to fixate on -real- issues.
What about launching aggressive attacks, after severing trade relations designed to starve your people for an event you had nothing to do with?
Would that qualify?
What you’re failing to see is at this time the Orcs were no longer the mighty invading army. They were shells of their former selves. They barely had the strength to muster the rebellion. Do you think the Night Elves would have taken an invasion of their territories lightly? These were not a few soldiers guarding concentration camps. The logging in Ashenvale was enough of a thorn for them. They started from the ground up and rebuilt because of the foundations Thrall laid out for them. Whether or not he thought they deserved it. From a place that could be called theirs. It’s exactly because of it’s inhospitability that makes it all the more of an accomplishment and achievement that Ogrimmar has thrived and become the hub of Horde governance.
I will admit to being a diehard Thrall fangirl though so take that into consideration.
Well that hasn’t happened, The worst things that’s happened is the attack on Camp T. Which was dealt with already.
Still not blighting your own troops, and forcing them to be raised up as mindless zombies to keep fighting.
Nor is it murdering your own people out of paranoia and to make a power move.
Not literally burning down a enemy capital unprovoked, because some rando elf made you upset.
Look I am not saying “Death to the living”, but I am thinking it really hard.
They’re not in the position you claim them to be. Grom’s Warsong Clan alone was holding their own against the Sentinels, until they ran to Cenarius for help. Grom then removed that problem.
And if Thrall had invaded Feralas, the Night Elves aren’t going to be throwing nearly as much blood to hold onto that.
Orgrimmar didn’t really thrive though. At least not until Garrosh. From both “Glory” and “Heart of War” we see Orgrimmar’s citizens starving at worst and economically dependent upon hostile foreign actors as best.
Ah yes, Camp T. The time where Baine exiled his own people for trying to avenge the attack. Very cool event.
But no, it literally has happened.
Honor’s Stand attacked the Horde in the Barrens without provocation. This was after the fact that trade with the Horde was severed as a result of the Wrath Gate.
This loss led to Orgrimmar’s citizens starving, as they’d been described as not doing too well before (“Glory”) and being entirely reliant upon trade with Ashenvale in particular to keep themselves afloat (“Heart of War,” “The Shattering”)
Unprovoked slaughter of an entire city. Regardless of what had happened in the past both factions had worked together on multiple occasions up to this point, and were working towards peace, until the Lich Queen murdered all those innocents. It’s clear that she has no regard for the Horde, for life, or for her followers. We’re just pawns to her, which is why she has no issue killing us herself and raising us as mindless undead if her pragmatism demands it. Stick with your Lich Queen, if she doesn’t end you when it’s convenient then the true Horde will. You and all the other Sylvan boot-lickers…
Because it’s a video game and I don’t care about the death of pixels.
Yes, he exiled a few people that were causing problems, Because Revenge is -not- a Tauren thing.
And it would only complicate the issue.
Baine instead decided to have a giant bloody wall build to protect all of Mulgore from offensive attacks.
If people want to run off on their own and seek vengence, so be it, but Tauren Culture frowns upon it.
If you knew anything about Tauren culture, you would know that.
Tauren are not orcs.
Yeah, it was a time of war, so it’s not really a “problem.” Try again.