How can we redeem/rebuild the Horde?

Zarrin, I have at no point argued that I’m the only one with problems, but what I have argued is that the Horde’s problems are of a different character from mine, and they are. I don’t think we disagree that we need a resolution for those problems, and hence I don’t see the point in reminding me what I already know about your situation. You don’t need to convince me, I’m already with you on it.

I will however state that in the same conversation that we talk about fixing your problems, we also give fair provision for mine and vice versa. There’s a tendency on these boards to propose things that leave entire swaths of the playerbase out in the cold - and while I appreciate that’s hard, often impossible to avoid, I do want us to at least be trying.

My difficulty with the solution as presented is two-fold. First
a) The revelation discussed will not undo audience feelings about PVP, and
b) It still doesn’t resolve the perceived-competence-in-the-rivalry issues that I’ve been laying out.

To actually attack b - I think that’s something that has to be resolved through faction conflict. It doesn’t have to be the all-encompassing BFA-like conflict, and it probably shouldn’t be, but it happened “in the arena”, and has to be resolved there as well. For a conversation of one piece of how we might do that - I offer the following: A proposal for Warsong Gulch

Re:[1] Elegy provides a lot of wiggle room in terms of numbers - so I’m not concerned about that. The evacuation was largely successful, the problem was that the War of the Thorns’ visual presentation was concerned with presenting the matter as a tragedy, and presenting the Night Elves as something to be pitied rather than respected and feared. Translate that to me, a PVPer. Do you think I want to be pitied, or feared?

Well, it doesn’t matter what I want if Blizzard is dictating, does it?

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