I could not disagree with you more. Teldrassil was still interpreted by many through the faction rivalry logic before and after. It was stuffed in our face as an example of why the Horde was superior before we learned who did it, and it happened after. I could go back and link you those responses if you feel like reading them. It takes me no time at all to find those examples, and if you look at GD threads (I consider GD to be the voice of the people, versus a lore based community like this one), they are STILL doing it.
Like the box said, your experience may be influenced by interactions from online play. The rivalry very much matters here.
As for the Zandalari, I disagree there too - the Alliance kicked their door down and humiliated them, especially the humans. After everything the trolls have been through, it’s their turn to be on the winning side for once. I also disagree on the Forsaken - that playerbase deserves to have its standing and its prowess back, especially after Blizzard decided to leave a crater where their characterization and identity was.
That’s why I listed suggestions the way I did. I think it would be a good starting point for the various fandoms to identify things that would build up their races/factions without taking anything away from the opposing faction or races.
I’m assuming that in your mind includes taking Ashenvale away from the Horde in the post WOT environment? Or the unearned feeling of superiority over the Night Elves and their allies?
I suppose that depends on how it’s done. But again, my suggestions mention nothing about the Horde needing to keep territory they acquired during the fourth war.
What?
Unearned?
No.
The Horde is superior to the Alliance. That’s why I play it.
So on the basis that I suffered too, should I stonewall your every effort to fix the Horde? Sweep in and declare that because Blizzard made the Horde evil, so shall it always stay? Should I blow hundreds of gallons of digital ink constructing fanon as to how this all “makes sense” and how you should sit down and shut up whenever someone proposes something that assumes that such should continue or never be addressed?
This was a premise built off of the idea that you could simply ignore the Alliance in its entirety - except when Baal wanted to change it for the Horde’s benefit of course, or when you wanted to use it to destroy the Barrens, that is.
It was also built out of a desire to stonewall my proposal, which brings me back to my earlier question:
My position is that the factions are tied into each other and that their resolution is linked. That’s the point that you and Baal rejected that led to this thread in the first place.
But if your position is that one group’s suffering cancels out the other, then the only answer I should provide to any of your proposals is “no, we suffered too, therefore you shouldn’t get squat” - just like you’re handing to me.
