How Can We Redeem/Rebuild The Horde (Actual Horde Edition)

I’m hardly toppest of top-end but the systems they have in SL are not really a whole lot of fun for our raid either (we clear AOTC so nothing ermigerd hard). But, I would say that a good 40% of my raid, myself included, changed covenant, changed legendaries, changed both, or just outright changed classes as we progressed through Nathria, because in a lot of cases… the grass doesn’t just look greener, it IS greener, and that edge can help push you past a roadblock boss.

Anyway.

cough Carry on.

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The difference between Battlegrounds and Warfronts is that Battlegrounds actually feel good to win instead of being a foregone conclusion. If there’s story content that leads up to “Now get in there and kill those Horde dogs! For Elune!” Then I’m gonna go in there and kill those Horde Dogs. And when I win it will feel amazing. And if I lose I’ll hit the queue button and try again. Because the story did it’s job and motivated me to want to fight the Horde instead of BfA where all it did was make it feel like a useless endeavor because the story already decided my fate is to lose.

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Well, any future Sadfang cinematics (since that’s all BFA offered) will be easy to create- just a minute or two of an increasingly decayed corpse laying on the ground.

Slightly off topic, but Kyrian MM hunter is actually not bad if you’re looking for a non-Ardenweald option. Kyrian is slightly behind NF for single target, but as good or better for aoe.

Eh, whatever. As long as there is appropriate Horde representation present.

:pancakes:

It’s amusing that out of that list…3 of them are already dead :wolf: :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Technically Nathanos is also dead. Yes, his soul went to the Maw, but if you haven’t noticed even the Jailor’s minions (save the Kyrian) are next to worthless without him building physical bodies for them. Tyrande killing him may have done what he wanted (because his entire character is doing anything and everything for Sylvanas, to the point where he probably knows he’s an expendable tool … and just doesn’t care) … but without a physical form he is “effectively” dead. He is a non-factor until the Jailor both builds him a body AND helps him also escape the Maw. And considering Sylvie’s usefulness seems likely to run its course soon, I don’t see Nate getting one.

Which means the only person on that list not dead, is Wix. If the Alliance players want him, he’s all theirs. Good luck tho’. His one and only real talent is self-preservation.

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Well, I was referring to the fact the only two not dead are Wix and Sylvanas, even though it looks like she’s going to survive the raid encounter.

I just don’t see the need to kill off more horde characters, it serves no purpose outside fulfilling the power fantasy of certain ally posters :wolf:

Good thing we are in shadowlands then right?

We bring them back and have them executed properly.

How about no? This weird obsession with killing horde aligned leaders is honestly nauseating. None of you actually mean it, you’re just trying to get a rise out of horde players. :wolf:

We can come up with better solutions that doesn’t involve pissing on horde players while calling it rain and acting like the other team should be thankful the alliance is being soo generous

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Every single one of them is directly responsible for a horrific crime against the Alliance.

So instead of “striking” against the entire Horde the characters directly victimized by these characters get their empowering of getting revenge.

Or do you prefer the Alliance hits the Horde instead?

The Horde players have made it clear that no solution is the best solution.
I don’t know what else to suggest.

And three of them are dead, Wix is out of the picture and we’re actively hunting Sylvanas…so yeah. :wolf:

Some of yall have unhinged, mentally ill takes, forreal, like what

also

I was really hoping that the Tarrague was Nathanos; like his simp was so strong that the Jailer cuck-dominated him into becoming a Shade-Goliath that only existed to protect the tower

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I was hoping for that too. Would show just how out of favor he had fallen with sylvanas, that his sole job is to protect Torghast for eternity.

Remember folks, only Alliance should be allowed to deal with Horde/formerly Horde characters that do bad things…

:pancakes:

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I mean, like, who cares? There is no PTR text to suggest that much more than that trinket remains of Saurfang’s soul; so we Hordies don’t even have the option of saving him. And while I doubt Sylvanas will “die”, it does sort of sound like she loses the use of her physical body by that dev’s slip of the tongue during a recent interview. Where we are “looting her corpse” (but, the corpse of a banshee is just a meat puppet anyway).

I do however think some Alliance posters really do just want to cull the remaining Horde roster. As bodying our “heroes” is additive to their expected power fantasy and thirst for revenge. Which is a little sad, considering when you think about it … the NEs alone have more developed reps remaining than like 5 of the Horde’s core races? Malf (A), Tyrande (A), Shandris (B), Maiev (B), Jarod (B). Where as the MU Orcs have 2 (Thrall (A), Eitrigg (B); Darkspear has 1 (Rokhan (B); Forsaken currently have 0 really; Bilgewater has 1 (Gazlowe (B); and the Mulgore Tauren 1 (Baine (A/B), since Hamuul hasn’t been around for years. Its quite the humbling list tbh.

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Now who is baiting. Where did I say only Alliance gets to do this?
Who do you want to kill?

Jaina? Tyrande? Malfurion? Genn? Go for it.

You still.

:point_down:

:roll_eyes:

:pancakes:

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Dude.
Where does it say I am asking for exclusive right for this privilege?

I quoted a post by you that said KB should be done by those that are directly affected by a baddy.

So I asked for clarification if that means Alliance gets to have KB on characters directly responsible for some heinous crap.

You respond with sure.

Then you respond “Lol remember only Alliance gets this to do this” just to make the conversation more toxic and confrontational.

Sweet.

Because your response here :point_down:

And here :point_down:

Further clarify that you only care about Alliance player feelings. In a thread about building the Horde.

Had you mentioned something about both factions having grievances but still want the Alliance to have the KB that’d be something else.

But come on, really?

Unless you were joking. But your follow up post seems to indicate you aren’t.

:pancakes:

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