Fire erevien and you fix the lore.
Its what the Alliance needs.
Thats what I told you when I responded to the proposal.
My hypothetical gives them a massive W.
You mean the suggested the story? I disagree strongly thats the W they need.
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STRONGLY recommend everyone just block Smallioz as I have months ago and stop giving him the attention he desperately craves.
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Everyone will disagree on what they “need”.
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No, let him try to get away from the hole he ditched himself into… Im idiotic enough to want him to see “how useful and down-to-Earth” his ideas are, and especially in regards to we getting actual enjoyment in the future.
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I guess that applies to you as well then.
Maybe the Horde is exactly where it should be and you just don’t realize it.
I’m not insinuating that my opinions are the only ones that are valid.
Ofc you disagree, there´s a blatant lack of Horde humiliation in that one. And the faction STILL exist as an actor of the narrative, not merely a vague entity with zero input or importance like it did in WoD, WotLK, SL, Legion and so on…
And I´m still waiting for you to ACTUALLY put on the work and elaborate regarding “Horde rebuilding” cause saying “Alliance kicks their teeths off with zero consequences from the Horde while getting the seal of approval from the neutral organizations” is too poor and vague for a suggestion.
You realize the whole point of threads like this is “what could be done better to make things better” right? If every time a new idea is brought up and you complain about what happened in the past then whats the point? Just delete the thread and move on because nothing better would happen, just the same old things we saw happen over and over again.
then why participate in anything constructive. Nothing good is going to happen so who cares?
Never said this. My opinion is both sides can have enjoyment.
Alliance needs to respond strongly to Horde aggression by attacking them causing a big loss to them.
Thats what they need.
I don’t have any right to tell what would be nice for Horde players after BFA and what they need. All I know is what Alliance needs in my opinion and I don’t think what I am saying is hugely unpopular either. Many are saying it.
However this thread in attempting in Redeeming/Rebuilding the Horde will indirectly ruin Alliance player experience as well. If there is a way to make both sides happy I am all ears.
My idea was to let the Alliance get their attack in and from then on allow the Horde all the growing it needs to do.
Neither am I.
This already happened.
Now we are going in circles.
Because, in a thread about rebuilding the Horde, you’re stuck on what the Alliance needs.
Because your assumption is that anything positive for the Horde is inherently negative for the Alliance.
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No.
I think if the Horde moves on from BFA with not addressing with what they did, making amends and all NPCs don’t care anything happened then it affects the Alliance player negatively.
Remember last we were in Azeroth we are still at a war with only a ceasefire in place.
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Wrong, the point of threads like this is “what could be done better to make things better” taking into account the current tools at disposal -and one of those tools (the human resource) is still pretty much the same that has been here since Cata. Naively believing the devs will create actual organizations for my faction when they haven´t ever done so apart from the one time they did but got discouraged from repeating (Cata) is foolish.
Good things can happen from my faction regardless of YOUR personal takes on it, dude.
Sure dude, that´s why your opinion has the conditional “BUT Alliance players MUST regaing their enjoyment FIRST” right? Cause it´s totes NOT a selfish petition. and why you perceive us trying to avoid more punishment and humiliation as an infrigement on “Alliance enjoyment”… cause apparently the only way you people can enjoy your faction once again is by proxy of us getting more miserable about our faction, amrite?
See? pitiful AND selfish. At least I´m honest enough to admit that in the case you guys get delivered what you ask and the Horde beaten by the Alliance to shambles, I just will want NO MORE appearances from characters / organizations from your faction EVER AGAIN. In a way we ask for the same, I just don´t pretend my stance isn´t abusively selfish like yours actually is.
As i´ve been telling to Zerde since MoP times: get the whole freaking map if that´s the only way you can live with yourself in this game. But don´t QQ when the resoruces get rerouted to show how the Horde moves on forwards and LEAVE US ALONE, tyvm.
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Yes, that’s exactly what you’re saying. Just like Morghel, the Horde rebuilding is dependent on Alliance players feeling better about their own situation.
Make a separate thread if you want to commiserate.
This one is about fixing the Horde.
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