The only thing Illidan did which we absolutely needed was getting the Keystone. We didn’t need his fel magic, we needed his experience fighting demons and knowledge of where the keystone is. In theory, if Illidan just gave us advice on how to do it, a group of mages could have ported to and gotten the Keystone. Fel magic not needed.
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The Illidari helped route demon infiltrators at a far more efficient manner. The fact is that the Illidari and the warlocks were able to deal major blows to the Legion.
Warlock takes out three generals, and takes one of the armies from them. Two of the three are bound and used against the legion.
I agree, we shouldnt’t tolerate warlocks. What they do in order to achieve power is unbelievable and unforgivable, actually disgusting.
Suffer well.
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Gah, lookout, a tricky intolerable warlock is trying to spread his lies! Go back to creating healing stones for groups of adventurers or protecting the souls of healers so they can revive mid battle. You evil evil warlock!
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That sounds like a lot of needless trouble instead of just letting the Demon Hunter do his thing.
Besides better to keep them around instead of asking a mage who has no idea what to do, which leads to finding instructions for them to look at, then they somehow don’t know how to handle it, you exile or kill them.
New problem that requires a mage to look into dark fel magic pops up and the cycle repeats
TLDR:
1)Fel problem pops up
2) Ask mage
3) Mage requires demonic instruction
4) Mage saves the day but has a need to learn more
5) You find out abou this and get angry
6) ???
7) Profit
We absolutely needed his combat abilities, actually, both magic and martial. He contributed to the fight on Argus in significant ways, including holding a chokepoint in one of the bases on the Antoran Wastes front.
Then you consider Demon Hunters and Warlocks in general, who as Cladriah said scored significant victories against the Legion. The Demon Hunters in particular intervened when the Legion tried to assassinate faction leaders after the Broken Shore. And that’s before you factor in the grievous blow dealt to the Legion by them in destroying the Nathrezim homeworld.
Also, Illidan was literally the only guy who wanted to use the Sargerite Keystone to open a path to Argus, forcing the campaign against the Legion capital. He’s more important than you’re writing him off as.
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And one of those victories was the Warlock PC stealing the Scepter of Sargeras from Gul’dan along with retrieving the Eye of Dalaran and the Book of Medvih. The remnants of the Shadow Council were searching for the last two and the warlock wipes them out.
Just imagine what would have happened if Gul’dan had those three items in his possession, the same three artifacts that Ner’zhul used to literally tear Draenor apart.
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As many have said, we are the Player Champion.
We are capable of and responsible for many great deeds. We walk up to the Quest givers to do their bidding.
Whether we do it with the Light, or while tearing our enemies souls to fuel spells of Felfire and Demonic Summoning…we are willing to do the job. Which counts for much in this world.
The pure white morality plays are mostly RP and wishful thinking.
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It’s because I’m irresistible. Who wouldn’t want me on their side?
In all honesty, warlocks are treated as something of a state asset. Weapons to be controlled and used against the enemy. But warlocks themselves convene in the dark and make plans there.
The answer is probably that the Alliance and Horde think they have their warlocks under control, but the Black Harvest shows that they don’t really.
The difference is that that you value your survival over theirs.
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Death Knights canonically are not found in there respective faction towns as far as the game shows death knights only practice in there order hall. Also as far as the in game cannon is concerned the death knight is a singular role now with the player character in control of every other death knight.
This was not the case for every other class as first of all there are multiple versions of Warlock, Paladin, Priest, Warrior, Monk, Mage, Druid, Rogue, Shaman for every race while there is only one literal way to be a death Knight at this point.
For example for Priests there is Talanji and there is Tyrande, there is no class equivalent for Death Knights there is Simply Bolvar and then the player character. there is no higher or stronger form of death knight than the two, and thats sets the DK class apart uniquely from every other class in game.
Realistically it makes no sense for such organizations to exist unless dire circumstances exist. And when such circumstance is ceased, they should go right back to being hunted. But once a class becomes playable, it goes straight into a protected watchlist or something.
The Demon Hunters helped thwart the Third Invasion and cracked a huge part of the Lich King’s power, destroying his ability to project it strongly. What did they get? Well in Vanilla they are hunted to extinction on Azeroth proper. Deservedly so, they belong to be locked up in a cell. Worgen are dangerous beasts who can’t be controlled. Oh they’re playable now? Welp all that about a curse goes out the window with some magic life dust.
Death Knights? Absolutely loose-cannons and we kill their originator(or at least first member) in Burning Crusade, yet in WotLK they’re deemed a-okay to be around, which is fine… But afterwards? None of it makes sense. Do’t think about it too hard.
It doesn’t matter if they’re just in the Ebon Hold. Paladins SHOULD be seeking the out and destroying them, especially after the events of Legion. They’re evil, no two ways about it. They deserve to be destroyed.
Plus Darion is just the Highlord and the Leader of the Four Horsemen like Baron Rivendare in lore. The player character both exists and does not exist.
Thanks for helping us save the world from Liches, Old gods, Demons, and Dragons, but we all got together and decided that you are actually badguys. So we’re going to execute you all. We’re the goodguys. Now put on the noose.
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Sylvanas fan?
Good deeds do not erase the evil deeds you have done. Morality isnt a trivial game of getting more good points than bad points.
I like all the arguments in favor of turning on your former allies once they are no longer of use to you… ![:smiling_imp:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/smiling_imp.png?v=6" ":smiling_imp:")
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Sheesh. The way some people are going on about us warlocks, I’m starting to think maybe I shouldn’t have stolen the Scepter of Sargeras if that’s the way it’s going to be…
So, a warlock like Tehd Shoemaker. Who was introduced along side a demonhunter and has only fought demons as of anyone knowledge. He is evil because he uses evil magic?
So what evil deeds has HE done?
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Using souls as fuel. Or life energy. Or both. As I’ve said before, Warlocks use fel magic. That Magic uses life and souls as fuel. Merely using it, is evil in of it self.