How are we feeling about these upcoming potential changes?

I’m still going to play it regardless. I don’t care enough to change to a spec I don’t want to play. Even if I’m the only Colossus Prot Warrior it’s what I’ll be doing.

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But you see how you doing this helps no one?

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What do you mean? If I choose to still play Colossus Prot Warrior… I mean its my account last I checked I pay for it so I can play whatever spec I want. Yes I agree the nerfs are unneed and its clear no one at Blizzard plays a warrior but still Im not going to change my spec just cause people say… oh this isnt BIS you need to change.

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My PVP take…

My eyes are mainly on the changes to “Storm of Destruction.” It feels great that there is an acknowledgment of the frustration with landing every hit in the demolish channel. A 60% slow may be good; I’m not really sure until I have a chance to test it. Hamstring, at 50%, never quite felt good enough but I’ll try the extra 10%.

The “Martial Prowess” change comes off as an unfortunate nerf to maximizing the “Mortal Strike” burst potential. The way the MP change is written on the patch notes sounds silly to me where we’re trading a frequent 30% damage boost for a sustained 15% boost.

The changes to “Sharpen Blade” are probably fine generally since it’s cooldown is now tied with “Anger Management.” It sucks that we lose control over it; I prefer maximizing it’s time applying it after my burst but this puts it at the start of my burst rotation.

In fact, my playstyle limits my burst rotations to every 45 seconds so if we’re going nuts why not also add “Thunderous Roar” and “Avatar” to Anger Management!!

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Whoever thought that Execute not applying a stack of Colossal Might was a good idea, needs to be dismissed. Seriously. On most, if not all instances where Colossal Might stacks are needed, taking that away is a Major Mistake. That is almost the level of removing a cooldown. Arms warriors need those stacks.

Why dont you just redesign the Mastery of Arms Warriors? That would be much easier rather than constantly changing the mechanics of Colossal Might. Who is in charge over there? The changes need to be reducing the cooldown on Colossus Smash by 1 second everytime Rend Critical Ticks. There, Boom, Done! All fixed. Its really not that hard.

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Makes me think back to WoD when they nerfed all of prot’s main damaging abilities to try and nerf Gladiator Warrior… only to get feedback saying Prot did not have the damage to maintain threat effectively.

Meanwhile nearly every warrior just facepalmed as the most basic solution would’ve been to nerf the damage modifier Gladiator Stance gave. Which is what they ended up doing a couple of weeks later.

It honestly make me wonder who they have as the warrior dev because it is clear they do not play warrior at all.

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I also seem to recall they gutted arms, said they were happy with it, and pretty much the entire community disagreed.

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I canceled my account. Blizz just got nerfed. The unjustified repeated nerfs to Fury when several other specs were overall better followed by the proposal to nerf Prot is too much. Look at the representation in higher level content regarding tanks - and Warrior needs to be nerfed? This is now a pattern - there is/are OP spec/s that aren’t Warrior, so bury Warrior. I just can’t do it anymore. I don’t know if the company has had to hire high school refugees to replace seasoned employees or if the new notion is to get us to spec swap intentionally so that the hours played metric looks good to share holders. To elimate a false dichotomy, I’m open to other possibilities but none that I can conjure up justify the terrible job being done by Blizzard. Anyway, you all have a blast. I suppose the wife and sis-in-law can follow me out the door or stay. In either case, I’m gone.

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RIP Reckless Abandon. You will be missed, along with the warrior class, in Season 2.

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I’m clinging to the hope that, against all conventional wisdom, the nerf to prot war doesn’t render it useless as a tank. This “we don’t like that you have too much rage” idea is just stupid. Not to mention “the game needs more people to tank, so we’re gonna nerf one of the favorite tanks into the ground” while VDH and Prot Pally is pulling entire dungeons…

I guess I’m going to have to level and gear my prot pally jic so I can keep tanking.

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Honestly, I just hope Blizzard devs do something smart and make changes to actually bring us up to be desired for content which doesn’t get us super nerfed. None of the nerfs they gave Warrior was warranted (talking about release, not PTR). They knee jerked and damn well gutted fury, in turn super gutting Arms. For what? A damn couple raid encounters that had adds that needed to be instantly blasted? Such BS. Screws us over for M+ completely.
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if the person that put together the start state of Warrior had no info or discussion with the current devs.
Do I have hope they’ll make things better? Going by track record, not a chance in hell. We literally just have to wait till they decide they want Warrior to be the desired class. Then we reap the rewards.

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Oh I agree there is no reason to be nerfing Prot Warrior.

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Devs either have very inexperienced people playing the class at the end of a season or they simply don’t play warrior.

I can’t find a valid reason for the nerfs outside of “I don’t know what button to press when I have rage”, at least if the nerfs go live it’s enough proof to show they simply don’t have any clue about this class.

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That was already figured out early in the season. While I don’t want to bash on the balance team, their knee jerk nerfs to warrior over the raid design is just stupid. They certainly didn’t care to look at M+, where warrior becomes pretty much undesirable. Yet they’ll leave Paladin and Shaman in an unhealthy state of being OP.

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part of it is now that they have one dev for multiple classes. off the top of my head it is known that the monk and the rogue dev are the same person and also the mage/warlock dev are the same people. obviously this causes issues because then that person will have to understand each individual facet of that class and each of their specs for all the content in the game. it’s supremely stupid. it could also be that the warrior dev is a spreadsheeter (ie, does not actually play the game)

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Blizzards class warrior dev’s suck donkey B@lls. Their Warrior Dev team is flat freaking horrible and don’t give two licks about balancing or making warrior viable like other classes. It’s been like this for years and year which shows nothing will change. iiIii Blizard and to the warrior mouthpieces in these forums that try to cover for crap balancing.

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Looks like I’ll be playing a different character

After the last 3 seasons worth of changes I think it’s no secret whoever is actually at the helm of warrior tuning doesn’t actually interact with any part of the class outside of reviewing log data.

That said, after fury warriors successfully complained our way into the buffs we’d been asking for (base ability damage buffs; Ramp/BT/RB), we’re in a spot where them tinkering with our talents shouldn’t overly cripple us like it did when they gutted OF.

The Anger Management changes seem like they’re going to maybe alter button mashing priorities, but overall we should be okay for sustain damage regardless.

I just don’t play Arms, so can’t really comment on that. Prot warriors, sorry y’all had a moment in the sun again. This is DF S1 all over again. Gonna be mid until the end of the xpac now.

I already informed my GM that if these prot nerfs go live I’ll be unsubbing until they fix it. No point in wasting money.

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Overreaction considering you’re only doing heroic and not pushing higher keys, but it’s your $15.