Hour + AV queue For Horde

in the flip side wsg is 8m now.

How long are queue times in retail?

Only until the zug zugs switch to queuing wsg, bloat that timer too and then the Ally pugs stop queuing it because they are hitting too many premades.

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allys are switching to wsg premades as i said they would last week you remember?

and thats all you do is zug zug to boss and now zug zug premade wsg.

Yeah. That’s Classic pvp. And when AB comes, it will just be premades there too.

Depends on exactly what you are queuing for. Certain bgs can be about 10-15 minutes. Other ones can be really long like in classic. Some of them almost never pop at all.

Yes it is. Not only is it inauthentic but it’s also ripe for abuse.
Frag that. If their going to screw it up and go with an inauthentic solution. Let’s remove the faction barrier completely. Make it one faction: Azerothians.
Make everyone in the open world attackable. Let raids and guilds form with any race. Remove the in game language barrier.
There. Just fixed server balance, bg queue times, added more to the player pool for doing dungeons and raids. Even RP wil benefit. /s

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thast why i stopped playing vanilla wow and went to swg then came back for tbc.

a lot of people are going to quit because of the way bgs are now.

Ally pugs aren’t going to queue WSG, no matter what happens in AV it’s better than what a pug in WSG gets- no honour at all.

Horde though should be celebrating, shorter WSG queues definitely mean it’s the better honour- and they can stop complaining about AV being about running past the enemy as they play a game about trying to get a druid to run past the enemy.

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Quoted for truth.

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Which is going to be a whole nother mess. Lol.
This is why blizz doesn’t like premades. They are going to queue dodge any premade they can. So it’s going to be the same thing. Open 5+ games to get that “right” one.
Which leaves those games as guranteed Horde wins. Players are pushing this with their metas.
I won’t be surprised if blizz makes more changes as players adjust to these. I’m guessing we will get the WSG win trading meta here real soon. Smh.

You guys QQ’ed and got a response. Be careful what you wish for


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As long as you all stop complaining about pvp happening in places (like pvp servers and bg’s) that pvp happens.

I did lol at your comment though. There’s a grain of truth to it. As long as you ignore wsg’s capture the flag objective. But hey it’s still funny. :rofl:

Agreed.

They need to open free faction transfers to the under-dogged side. Once with gets with 5% population-wise, it then costs money to transfer.

BLIZZARD my 6 months sub is coming to an end! why should i resub to wait an hour for av game ?

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I heard that there is nearly an equal number of horde and alliance overall with favor to the alliance. It’s just that most of us are not pvping at all.

Then literally no one would level as Alliance. Even people intending to play Alliance would level as Horde, then swap to Alliance. This is bad for many reasons

  1. The Alliance quests were done first and are typically thought of as more well-designed (as far as I know even Horde players feel this way - Horde was developed late into the dev cycle of vanilla and a lot of their quests were shoe-horned in, hence the high amount of kill quests relative to the Alliance). What you’re suggesting would put an entire factions quests to waste - which is bad even IF Horde had a better designed questing experience.

  2. What would you propose be done about the Shaman/Paladin situation? People can just level as a Shaman then transfer to a Paladin at 60? No thanks, leveling as a Shaman is way too easy to have that right.

  3. Anyone unlucky enough to be a low level Alliance would get even MORE rolled over in world pvp - whether they were low level before this gets implemented, or were casual/ignorant enough to the situation to not recognize the meta.

It honestly baffles me that people suggest faction transfers or merc mode in CLASSIC WORLD OF WARCRAFT. Like holy god, how game-ruining do you retail clowns have to be to toss aside retail and come to Classic (recognizing that Classic is the superior game) then try to ruin it in the same ways you ruined retail?!

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You shouldn’t; bye!

I think the issue people have with merc mode is it goes completely against classic and the idea of no changes. I know we tweaked a few knobs in this patch but lets be real. If we added merc mode we might as well get Dungeon Finder running too.

I think the best way to bring more alliance players would be to buff xp gains on their side. A simple +15% xp bonus for the underdog faction (by server) would hopefully attract some. Then when the population settles you can remove the bonus.

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Merc mode will probably never happen because paladins/shamans. Wouldn’t be fair