Beckett, the voice of reason.
What Iāve seen that Grobbulus is slightly Horde heavy, so transfer of that excess would work out well for both servers.
If youāve got data from census mods, Iād be interested in seeing it.
Nice to see the Grobbulus is high while DD is low on weekends. Deviate deserters, return to our lord Grobb while you still can.
Layering makes census mods/addons utterly meaningless, because you canāt see everyone whoās actually on at any given time, and each layer could be a full layer or a new, emptier layer.
Thereās absolutely no way to use ingame addons to get a proper census of Grobbulus right now. Info from DD might be more accurate because you guys have less layers, but thatās not the case for us.
However, we did have some polls from reddit and while those were smaller sample sizes, they at least provide a somewhat accurate representation of the population thatās actually most likely to stick with Classic in the long term, those that arenāt tourists or are more committed to the game.
Based off of those polls, Grobbulus is near-perfect at around a 51/49 or 50.5/49.5 split in the Allianceās favor.
Blizzard made a poor judgment call and opened a second RP-PVP server when it wasnāt needed. Youāre wasting your time on a server that will be a ghost town in 6 months.
Also, whoever is acting like the ED community is inconsequential has clearly never played on ED.
You can do a /who for a specific layer using the āz-ā prefix, and a /who from all layers by omitting that prefix. People who have done this have posted population estimates of 14,000 for Grobbulus and 6000 for DD at prime time. Unfortunately they didnāt give enough detail to determine exact faction balance.
6000 is twice the population of a high population server in Vanilla, so Iām not worried about that. Who wants to play on a server thatās constantly queued, especially if they lower the caps back down now that transfers are open?
To be clear, I didnāt say it was inconsequential; Iām saying that emphasizing the ED subset of the server has a negative effect on the server culture. Negative and inconsequential arenāt the same thing.
@Ithiliell Youāre putting all this effort into arguing over metrics you cannot possibly get the full picture on. Effort that could be used in making DD a good server.
Stop being a leech and go away. Thanks.
Please stop bumping this post. Let this post die along side DD. OP canāt bump without responses and if they do we can just report spam. GG
Is it possible to undo a transfer?
Bump.
Report me.
Ithiliell, there really isnāt any reason to be doing this. There also isnāt any reason for there to be server rivalries. Itās stupid and accomplishes nothing.
Grobb enjoys what they do, and DD enjoys what we do. Weāre completely separate from each other, and denigrating the other just shows insecurity.
Iāll admit Iāve been less than positive when talking about Grobb. All Iāve heard about it is second hand, so itās nothing to take as concrete evidence. Iām biased towards DD because I started here when the queue for Grob was over 9000 and I couldnāt be bothered with that.
Since I joined on opening night, weāve built our own identity and community. Weāre different from Grobb, and thatās not a bad thing for either server. Calling us a ādead realmā is simply wishful thinking or just an attempt to boost Grobbās ārepā. Either way call it what you want, but DDās community is thriving, albiet at a smaller scale than Grobb is.
So call DD āirrelevantā and ādeadā all you want. Weāll remain here with our growing and thriving RP population no matter what false information outsiders try to spread about it.
I just look at it as an opportunity to play the other faction and each server will have their own vibe.
Also, weāre still using layering. I am not expecting many tourists to leave by Phase 2 so we will need people to leave in the next few months otherwise weāll have big queue issues down the road.
Hoping both servers thrive.
Just for the record, this doesnāt appear to work any more. Apparently in Blizzardās progressive layer transfer delay hot fix to inhibit alleged layer exploitation, they also changed both forms of /who to return all characters from all layers. You can still use automated /who mods to get a sense of total server population, though, just not the layer breakdown.
Agreed; the free server transfers were put in for a reason, and that reason was to reduce population on overpopulated servers. Letās not forget they already increased server population substantially over what they originally considered optimal for launch, so even some servers that donāt have queues are probably expected to be overpopulated when layers are removed.
Iām confident of it.
Bumping this thread
Transferring to Deviate Delight was the best decision I made in my life since I invested all of my daughterās college savings in Amazon back in 1998
#LivingtheDream
I transferred to DD and honestly it was probably the best decision I could have made. Better ping, better community, no PvP bros, lots of open world spontaneous roleplay. I love it.
iām not getting advice from a level 13 about servers, at least go through the level 20 contested zones before telling people how servers are
Iām very satisfied with my transfer to DD. More RP, friendlier community, excellent ping, EST time zone, and less PvP Bros.
wowpop data derived from the census classic add on shows that Deviate Delight has several thousand more Alliance than Horde, while Grobbulus has a few thousand more Horde than Alliance.
https://wowpop.appspot.com
Transfer of a few thousand Horde from Grobbulus to DD would improve the faction balance on both servers. Horde roleplayers, check out the RP guild thread on the DD forum for lots of friendly possibilities.
Something to think about for Horde waiting in queue.
I know youāre not very bright but they are obviously trolling.