Horde retcon [spoiler]

And if you go a little further Voss delivers the new made Nelf undead to her and they go off together. They are setting her up to be their leader, not the Forsaken’s.

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Next you’ll say us Forsaken tirelessly striving to protect the living is a lie.

Why won’t you let me tirelessly strive to protect you??!?

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Its like they want to erase BfA but really can’t blame them this was probably the worst expansion.

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If it’s true, that would be pretty silly for them to retcon cause Shadowlands happened cause of BFA and Slyvanas and all that. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


How did you do the whole colored text thing? seriously? They look pretty. :open_mouth:

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I’m not sure about that the story does strongly suggest what I say is true. But for what ever reason its not Voss only hates the scarlet crusaders and anyone who tries to attack the forsaken out of hatred for the undead outside of that she just wants to isolate herself. So if she is leader i can see the undead wont have a lot of spot light as she will keep most of them isolated

On top of that isolation tactic its probably a good idea as the angels of death arent mass producing forsaken anymore so i wonder how they gonna create more, a problem i hope they solve in shadowlands.

I get that the writers want to push their morally grey narrative, but you can’t just pretend BFA didn’t happen.

You can’t write it off as if all The Horde are a bunch of rough around the edges softies ready to protect the world. You can’t ignore the conflict of ideals between The Horde races. What the heck.

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BfA was the set up for this. They want to put the faction war behind them so they can tell bigger stories like Shadowlands. They just really botched BfA’s story trying to make Sylvanas into a cartoon villian.

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Did you miss the part where the Horde literally had a civil war about this issue and your side lost? If you edgelords want your evil Horde so bad, so jump in the Maw and find it.

Anyway, this isn’t a retcon, just regular con. These are the ideals the Horde has chosen to espouse now after overthrowing the Banshee Queen. We’ll see how long they stick with 'em. (Probably until subscription numbers dip again and they decide to do a Horde vs. Alliance expansion to get the fanbois back.)

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Indeed, which is why I find this retconning really stupid, they can’t just erase an entire expansion and expect people to forget about it.

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Blizzard is doing its best/worst/take your choice to totally sanitize our mighty races, in BOTH factions!
I say…BRING IT!
Begins slamming her :axe: against :shield:
ARISE, ye shackled spirits! Go BARBARIAN!
Skäl
:beer:

Cute. Its an attempt at a retcon, just a poorly done one.

Though you know what, Blizzard has thrown in false info into data mining before. So unless someone got this on actual in-game footage, it could be them purposely messing with our heads to get us riled up.

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Are you familiar with their writing staff? They most certainly can.

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I called this, right after last BlizzCon: This expac will be the WoW version of

‘’…then Bobby stepped out of the shower.’’

If Blizzard does this, what the OP and the rest of you all are suggesting, this game is OVER!

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They’re trying to make things more generic for the generic, shared starting area. I do agree it feels a little dirty. I don’t mind revamped leveling but I wish they kept the starting zones as the default for new players.

Also I really don’t like how they keep watering down trolls and orcs (but especially trolls in my case) to be blue and green tauren.

The current live intro is already a lot “nicer” than what it was originally in vanilla.

The vicious trolls that populate the numerous jungle isles of the South Seas, are renowned for their cruelty and dark mysticism. Barbarous and superstitious, they carry a seething hatred for all other races. Long since exiled from their ancestral homeland in Stranglethorn Vale, the Darkspear tribe was nearly destroyed by rampaging murlocs. Rescued by the young Warchief Thrall and his orcish warriors, the Darkspear tribe swore an allegiance to the Horde. Led by the cunning Shadow Hunter, Vol’jin, the Darkspears now make their home in Durotar along with their orcish allies. As one of the only surviving Darkspears, it falls to you to reclaim the glory of your tribe.

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Exiled years ago from their land in Stranglethorn Vale, the Darkspear trolls attempted to make a new home for themselves among the disparate races of the Horde. Under the leadership of the noble Warchief Thrall, Vol’jin and his savage trolls had finally found the honor and purpose they had been searching for but now, under the rule of the headstrong Garrosh Hellscream, the trolls fear that the Horde could tear itself apart. Vol’jin knows that whatever threats loom ahead, whether they be from within the Horde or from without, it is cunning trolls like you that will fight to preserve the honor of the Horde.

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Renouncing the savagery of the other tribes, you and your fellow Darkspear trolls protect Azeroth with cunning ferocity.

Blizz is trying to hard to make every race appear to be a race of noble, righteous heroes. This hurts the game in so many ways. It makes the lore/story less interesting, it depreciates some of the unique appeal that helped set wow apart from other games, and it throws away the unique identities of the various races. Many of those identities have been 15 years, if not 25 years, in the making.

Honestly it’s slightly upsetting to see this happening to the various characters in game as well as the races as a whole.

You can be “good” without being nice. You can be “bad” without being evil.

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Are goblins still cool atleast?

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I see this as a good thing. It means Blizzard might be headed towards removing this outdated concept of faction vs faction that they’ve been riding on for so long.

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It really is, like seriously what a stupid move on their part. if they do this its over.

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voss is the forsaken voice on the council but she wants calia to be the day to day leader

Says it ALL!
Remind me to slaughter you with quickness, when we meet in honorable battle!
SKÖL!
:beer: :beer: :beer:

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This revision makes it so that BFA has already ruined shadowlands before it even got off the ground.

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