Horde Queues 20 Minutes Now Proves

horde vs horde isnt a retail change

They are going to give us horde vs horde, wont be a problem for long

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Honestly, I just do it for you. I know how much you enjoy it.

Just curious, subby, can you show us your supporting pie graphs using data collected by turning to random pages in a 30-year-old phonebook?

Imagine being so absolutely delusional that you think instant queues only affect a small percentage of hardcore pvpers on horde side while ALSO destroying the entire alliance faction and affecting the entire population.

Do you even read what you type or are you head deep in the kool-aid? This helps so many horde more than the hardcore PVPers. The casual andys that want to just use some of their limited time to do some PVP can’t even DO battlegrounds because the queue times are too damn long. Meanwhile what happens to alliance? Nothing, their queue times are the same.

These responses are disingenuous, it’s just salty allies that are upset horde are going to have honor gear and their gear advantage gets stripped away.

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SOME alliance have stated on the forums why they picked alliance, let’s be clear here, only a minuscule fraction of total players even post on the forums. Less than 5% if I had to bet.

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Where do you see servers being down tomorrow ?

Same can be said for horde when we see alot of them saying “lets go ganking at summoning stones and quest hubs”

No, no it’s not. Whole alliance guilds have disbanded and already quit and transferred over this change already. It’s a massive change, and a retail one at that. It doesn’t belong in TBCC which is suppose to be an unmolested museum piece. The only reason it was even considered is because a bunch of retail players bandwagon and boosted Horde for OP racials and now don’t want to deal with the consequences of their actions. Instead they cried on the forums for bad decisions.

CRBG will kill what little faction balance we have, ultimately destroying pvp servers with world pvp. It won’t happen in a day, or week, or month but it will happen and erode the alliance faction.

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What’s that phrase you like to throw around so much, retail tourists was it?

gaslighting nonsense

I meant Tuesday. Either way we’re only waiting a few days for instant queues to return.

6 hour queues at times on OCE. Would love 20min.

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No, they are OG players who probably played the game 15 years ago and want to enjoy the game unmolested by retail player ideals.

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PVE is the main game for WoW, pvp is a mini game so that’s an apple to oranges comparison.

Alright then so the change for HvH is only affecting the mini game and should have no impact on alliance at all, yeah? Imagine rolling alliance to have better access to a mini game, it’s not even a focus of the main game! Horde are just wanting to participate in the mini game as well, and since it doesn’t affect Alliance pve (which is the main focus of the game) literally at all it shouldn’t be a problem, right? Do you see how you’ve argued yourself into a corner here?

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You’re reaching so far here, it’s really funny.

Yes it’s a massive change, but to say its a retail change is a massive lie. Yes we have merc mode in retail, but you have the option to play along side with the opposite faction. Not play with your own faction against your own faction. Isn’t even close to being the same feature.

I mean objectively speaking there is a much greater amount of PVE content than PVP content in WoW.

In TBC there are 4 battlegrounds only 1 of which is new to TBC and then the arenas + world objectives.

Not even counting Classic content there is 9 new raids and 16 new dungeons not mentioning the hundreds of quests and various mobs to fight throughout the world.

Not knocking on people that prefer to PVP but it’s clearly not the bulk of the developers time for this game.

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Lol no. You are.

A change is implemented that is a retail change. Players quit over it. Is it more likely they are:
a) retail players, who quit over a RETAIL CHANGE or…
b) Old-school players who DON’T like the retail change

It’s B, obviously.

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Yes but I’m rubber and you’re glue, now what?