Hmm, while discussing “The Negotiation” on another thread, I started to wonder if Saurfang was meant to be talking about the Old Horde when he said it was founded on a lie. That would make more sense … but it is far from clear as written, and he does still go on with that line about how the Horde could never match the Alliance’s virtue in a thousand years.
ETA: Also, editing in this quote about the purpose of the thread, because I’m always searching for it: