Horde; let's talk about Isle of Conquest

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Why do you guys REFUSE to take Docks?

I’ve tried to figure this out for some time now. I consider this a phenomenon. An entire faction refuses to take Docks, while simultaneously deciding that glaives are so strong that they NEED to be killed. How is it you haven’t put 2 and 2 together yet? Just TAKE Docks.

I’ve been trying to get answers out of people in BG chat. I get one of 3 responses:

  1. Alliance get there first, so it’s hopeless.
  2. Stop talking and play.

And the very, very special 3rd response I’ve gotten before…

  1. We don’t win that fight, they have the high ground.

What is going on??? It doesn’t matter if Alliance can get the cap first. If the Horde team is there and contesting it, Alliance doesn’t get to use those glaives until the battle is over and won for them. If Horde WANTS to fight for Docks, the fight HAS to resolve first, and the winner takes Docks. It doesn’t MATTER who capped it first.

And once you have glaives, hell, you can just 40-man defend them if you want. Nothing else is important if you got those. You spam aoe’s, NOBODY is getting through that, the glaives kill the gate in a minute or less, and you migrate your 40-man death squad into the boss and the game is over.

This whole gambit of… “We’re gonna LET them take the strongest node in the game, and then HOPE they underman the glaive protection, and then HOPE our stealthies go together to kill them,” is such a BIZARRE decision to make. And to make it even MORE bizarre, the ENTIRE FACTION chooses to do this.

Every.

Single.

Match.

And every single match, it’s the same thing. “Omg, noob Rogues, they didn’t kill the glaives. Omg omg omg omg omg! This entire loss is their fault!”

How many more DECADES would it take for this faction to figure it out??? I’m literally asking the entire Horde faction right now: Would you mind explaining the logic of this chosen strategy? And why is it that you think just TAKING Docks is not worth it?

My theory: With an unknown origin to me, it’s simply become a snowballed herd mentality effect, where everyone hears “ignore docks but kill glaives” at the start of the BG every time, and nobody really knows why it’s being said anymore. And then, the very small handful of victories that happened to come from this, usually due to Alliance misplays, end up serving as validation in the Horde players’ minds. “See, it works if we do it right!”

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Stopped here. This mentality is the problem. Acting put upon and oppressed and forsaken does nothing valuable. Fight back and fight properly.

If you keep doing the same things every time youre gonna get the same results every time. Crying about it til the results change isnt how life works.

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… What? Did you also start there?

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I have had a few successful attempts in convincing players to do something that isn’t just rush hangar then afk until loss. It’s like you said though there’s just this awful group of players that bring an even worse attitude in with them. Omg team capped docks gg. Omg noobs mid gg. HANGAR OR LOSE GG. They haven’t got the slightest clue as to why it works and why it doesnt, just that it does.

They don’t want docks because Ally >CAN< key word CAN <— stop the glaives with ease if they focus them down or have any defenders. You can rush in and kill them before they’ve gotten to the door or stealthies can destroy them before they die. It’s pretty rare for horde to defend vehicles though to my experience which makes them considerably more risky than the gunship. Problem with gunship is the amount of people that completely abandon their post. Guns get left empty while people jump into the CY and farm the late joiners in their GY. Sometimes not even running bombs.

I was on the Ally side for a while getting my BG achievements done, it wasn’t worth trying to get 100 wins per BG hordeside. Team battles with single player mentality. There’s just better communication on their side and it’s not necessarily “less” toxic but there just seemed to be an overall higher attempt at winning on their side. People actually made calls and what’s more is people would respond to them.

You’re basically fighting a losing battle where the only people you’ll win against have forgotten to drive their second wave of uncontested demos up middle and are too busy farming to notice when their gates finally going down. Horde pvp is a big free for all where you’ve got more enemies than allies in an equal numbers fight.

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Horde = Winners. We win pretty much every BG. The only people who are saying otherwise are spies, planted by the Alliance government. We all know this.

:woman_shrugging:

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Havent you heard? After 3 expansions of Horde dominated pvp the Alliance rules pvp now.

Weird cause the horde players will tell you they are the superior pvp faction, but current BGs, and Arenas are showing otherwise.

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