Horde IS the issue

[Roxanewatson-moon-guard (Roxanewatson)]

Ganking lowbies is entertaining.

[Percivall-sargeras (Percivall)]

@Zaxn-tichondrius

Hahahaha ok, Human Racial. Because THAT wasn’t the absolute god tier for 3 expansions. “Oh know Orcs can stack a PvP talent for fractions of a second less in CC, OP!”

Imagine thinking Horde is better because .3 seconds less of being stunned. Damn. Rough times!

Uhh.. Blizzard? What were you thinking?! New Zandalari Troll Racial Is TOO GOOD!

[Tanknnspankn-chromaggus]

Haha yeah that’s OPed not going to lie. In the hands of the right person could be god tier

[Torturekilla-dalaran (Torturekilla)]

@Irisse-maelstrom

@Zaxn-tichondrius

No we just like pointing out that Alliance was given free gear because they can’t hang and still attempt to act like they’re having hard times.

While ignoring the fact that the reason Horde got to be the majority faction in PVP in the first place was welfare racials, yes.

Nah, it’s the fact that Alliance pvp is painful and a slow agonizing loss almost more often than not. Long before WM even existed.

[Roxanewatson-moon-guard (Roxanewatson)]

I’ll just keep flagging you whenever you act like this ‘hun’.

[Casperle-moon-guard (Casperle)]

You do you hun

[Irisse-maelstrom]

@Tanknnspankn-chromaggus

@Irisse-maelstrom

orde got to be the majority faction in PVP in the first place was welfare racials, yes.

Change your narrative or provide proof because you’re a broken record with that yet failed to back it up. I believe most went Horde because they’re more attracted to the lore.

If you don’t think the massive PVP migration to Horde was a result of the original EMFH nerf, feel free to advocate reverting that nerf and getting rid of AOO and differential war mode bonus. But be prepared for a war mode that has no Horde in it.

[Irisse-maelstrom]

@Tanknnspankn-chromaggus

The fact the AOO quest is ONLY for 120s should give you a huge hint.

Actually the AOO quest originally counted all kills. It was only changed to 120s because of Horde whining. Given the differential bonus applies to experience, it’s pretty clear that imbalance that was meant to be fixed applied to leveling characters as well, and not just to 120s.

[Dosao-bonechewer (Dosao)]

@Irisse-maelstrom

If you don’t think the massive PVP migration to Horde was a result of the original EMFH nerf, feel free to advocate reverting that nerf and getting rid of AOO and differential war mode bonus. But be prepared for a war mode that has no Horde in it.

Isn’t it true that even when humans had the original EMFH racial , horde out numbered Alliance over all ?

[Dosao-bonechewer (Dosao)]

@Irisse-maelstrom

Actually the AOO quest originally counted all kills. It was only changed to 120s because of Horde whining.

Let me get this straight … originally alliance could not only do the AOO in a raid but they could also get it done by 120’s killing level 20 horde in barrens?

The lack of confidence in alliance PvP skills from the devs would be insulting to any self respecting alliance player .

[Ramayana-zuljin (Ramayana)]

@Irisse-maelstrom

It was only changed to 120s because of Horde whining.

Makes me laugh when people like Irisse refer to people advocating for smart changes as “whining”. Imagine being so dumb and so bad at this game that you think it is reasonable to be able to kill sub-120s and be rewarded with an ilvl 400 item.

[Dosao-bonechewer (Dosao)]

The KT human racials are also pretty good . The DR resistant stun knockback is very useful in PvP. Anyway if the experience of Dark Iron Dwarfs ( who have the best overall racials on alliance side but have a low population ) is any indication , alliance will refuse to play the better racial races on their side, stick with boring regular humans and then complain about horde racials !!

[Zairix-tichondrius]

KT humans got nerfed checked the hotfix notes stuns on DR now

[Dosao-bonechewer (Dosao)]

Oh… but my point about DI dwarfs still stands.

[Zairix-tichondrius]

The dark iron racial shares a 30 second cooldown with trinket. Complete garbo imo

[Roxanewatson-moon-guard (Roxanewatson)]

Do Zandalari still have OP healing racials or was that nerfed aswell?

[Zairix-tichondrius]

Zan racial hasnt changed just saw this in the hotfix notes this morning.

“Fixed an issue that caused the stun component of Kul Tirans’ Haymaker to ignore diminishing returns and effects that reduce the duration of stuns.”

[Dosao-bonechewer (Dosao)]

@Roxanewatson-moon-guard

Do Zandalari still have OP healing racials or was that nerfed aswell?

They are just waiting for the faction change transactions to go through before nerfing that . Give it a week .

[Zairix-tichondrius]

Your probably right. I bet they are making bank off the new races. I’ve seen a bunch of kul tiran potatoes around to.

[Percivall-sargeras (Percivall)]

@Dosao-bonechewer

stick with boring regular humans

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