mayhaps they are using historical precedents from real life, and these battles, wars and skirmishes are representative in some way, and if they break from that, they lose the thread and the story careens out of control
This is extremely likely. Just unfortunate is all.
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I mean, Iâm not even strictly against sharing/neutral races, but it should at least be done fairly. Aside from that, itâs just ridiculous to paint old races in new colors and then copy them over to the other side.
However, when it comes to the cities, I find it more than questionable to share them after everything that has happened. If you belong to a particular faction, regardless of race, you shouldnât be in the enemyâs city, especially not in those youâve previously massacred. I donât know, but my rant will blow away in the wind anyway. WoW has become a different game now.
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I imagine Iâd care more in your place if there was like⊠anything of note there aside from one quest that will take you like 2 minutes to fly to. And some guys glasses you can fish out of the water if youâre absurdly lucky.
Oh and by the way, if weâre talking about settlements being recovered: Gadetzan is still gone.
A lot of things arenât shown in game. Like Theramore got nuked and yet itâs still there, still getting super pissed if my horde characters wander through. And Iâm still having people beat me over the head with how horrible it was.
What races has the horde ârecievedâ that were alliance?
Itâs not even this so much as it is that the only time the horde seems to get any presence in the story itâs either as villains or side kicks since like⊠legion and in the meantime we get to see the alliance get buffed to high heaven and Tyrande rambling on and on and on about malfurion and elune and the tree.
I want to have stories where the Horde is prominent, where we see someone other then Thrall representing the faction. Show me what Geyârah, Gazlowe or Talanji are up to or working on or whathave you. Hell, make new characters who can act as standard bearers for the game going forward and give new perspectives on what it means to be Horde at this point in the gameâs story.
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100% true. Honestly I feel it all fell apart when they tried to force Alliance and Horde to work together mainstream.
Before that we never saw each other and had no idea what was really going on in either side(Now we know majority of whatâs going on in both sides and can see the differences). We met at endgame but even then it wasnât the same way we have in Modern WoW.
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about 100 casts it took me. estimated time 2 hours
If you donât care about Gilneas, thatâs fine for you. I do care that the Alliance has neither a hearthstone nor a flight master in the area, while the Horde has a flight master right next to the city, and itâs even decorated with a Sylvanas banner.
It depends on which phase youâre in. If youâre in the present, itâs completely destroyed. And youâre ignoring the fact that the Allianceâs places have been continuously destroyed by the Horde. There hasnât been a single Horde warfront. Quite conspicuous, donât you think?
As I mentioned earlier, theyâve received the Night Elf model (twice), the female human model, and soon the dwarf model.
If I could trade, get the best races and my homeland intact, then sure, the Horde can be prominent in WoWâs dreadful story. I strongly doubt that many people are still interested in this nonsense.
The vast majority of top M+ players and mythic raiders are Alliance races because of the racials.
I donât know if Iâd call that Alliance favoritism, though. I think the racial imbalances (which in the past favored the Horde) are aimed at increasing revenue from faction/race changes.
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So again: The city was functionally abandoned since 4.0 (or about 13 and a half years ago) and wasnât really part of either the alliance of Lordaeron or the Alliance of Stormwind so while it may have Narrative value for the worgen players⊠it wasnât ever really a thing in the greater lore.
As to the Forsaken: they were involved in itâs downfall (along with a certain dragon), but they were also involved in itâs restoration; the desolate council recognized that it was a problem due to it being a new center of power for a resurgent scarlet crusade and there were also those who wanted to wipe their hands clean of sylvanas so a decision was made to engage in a joint effort with the alliance to restore the city to the hands of itâs true owners.
I have literally never seen it destroyed outside of a pandaria scenario and when I came back to the game in Legion I rather pointedly went to investigate the situation⊠and found nothing. No quest chains, no Bronze dragon time shifter⊠just a big olâ fortified alliance port. Heck itâs still there right now with the radiant echoes event in Dustwallow.
As to warfronts: Iâll give you darkshore, but not arathi highlands. That region was contested since launch.
And Regarding lost cities: there were some minor settlements lost, this is true but at the same time Southshore wasnât exactly a major quest hub if weâre being honest; the best thing it had going for it was that it was the closest FP for players in their 30âs to SM which became a moot point with the implemantation of the LFG system in late Wrath.
This is a stretch. The Nightborne certainly share the same rig but when players got this the overwhelming response was⊠that they were honestly kind of hideous. Like the average nightborne wandering around suramar looked better then what we as players were able to put together. The Zandalari Maleâs rig was modified from it to have a different gait and sense of weight.
I think the âhuman female modelâ youâre referring to is the Dracthyr?
And as to dwarves: Are you honestly this upset and possessive of slightly bigger dwarves?
As you are typing this, are you aware of the irony?
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inserts âoh no. Anywaysâ meme
Silvermoon belongs to its people â Most of which are namely: âThe Blood Elvesâ
- It does not belong to the Alliance.
- It has never belonged to the Alliance.
Once upon a time Silvermoon may have allied with them, but it never belonged to them.
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He actually said that the Horde he joined was a lie and tainted by corruption, that the road to the dark portal was pathed with the bones of the innocent. It pretty much confirms that they have been evil and that this was his motivation to change. The âpath to glory was a lieâ.
The official cinematic for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DjwOglqONg
The more you use smilies and icons to make a point, the more credibility you give me actually. Maybe there is some truth in your post below all the childish resentment for a video game, but we have to dig deeper for the true essence, because I think youâre too old for a rebellious phase.
Horde get Vulpera while Alliance get Mechagnomes. That already tells you who is Blizzardâs favorite faction.
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So, once again, if you donât care about Gilneas, fine. But then at least make some Horde locations neutral as well, to keep things fair. Because right now, itâs anything but fair. Brill canât even be counted because Alliance players arenât allowed there. You automatically get a debuff that, as I mentioned, transforms you into a Horde race. Why is that necessary for the Alliance, but not for the Horde when theyâre allowed to freely roam multiple Alliance territories?
Iâll just let your downplaying of the entire series of destroyed Alliance locations by the Horde slide because I realize thereâs absolutely no point in discussing this with you. The Horde destroys a bunch of stuff, and because they eventually help make the place habitable again after years (even though this was already accomplished twice before solely by the Alliance, but that was conveniently ignored in the lore), itâs now justified for them to come and go as they please?
You do realize that by your logic, Orgrimmar, Silvermoon, and Suramar should all be neutral, right? The Alliance helped save Orgrimmar twice from a crazed part of the Horde. Itâs thanks to Velen that the Sunwell even functions, and the Alliance helped just as much in liberating Suramar as the Horde did. But of course, these are all Horde cities, so we canât make them neutral. Even Suramar has an exclusive phase for the Horde. It must be nice to be so heavily favored that you get rewarded even when your faction has done so much damage.
And yes, currently the Horde has three Alliance models, whereas the Alliance has received only a single Horde model, which, by the way, is still the only Legion race that hasnât gotten any unique new customizations. Just compare that to the Nightborne, who probably have more options than the Night Elves at this point. And no, I wouldnât care if the Horde got Dwarves. The problem arises when one side consistently gets something while the other side is left out. When this keeps happening, itâs just frustrating. They might as well make all races neutral if they canât find balance.
So sorry, but when Alliance stuff is constantly being shifted over to the Horde, I find it ridiculous that there are endless threads in the forum where the Horde is whining just because theyâre not the focus of a trashy story that probably any teenager could write better.
Well, and this, yupp.
A customization option for the most unpopular race in the entire game, which made them even uglier, versus a mainstream fox race. But sure, the Horde is consistently disadvantaged.
The Blood Elves are not a people, they are a political alignment, remember? 
They actually are a people, a people currently thriving compared to the High Elves (no true capital to speak of considering their inability to properly unify and make a new one, mooching off of humans), and Void Elves (tents on a rock)
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Heâs not worth correcting. Taking something Aussie has said a hundred times out of context to troll. As usual.
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Wrong Blizzard is Alliance bias, Alliance expansion mount, Alliance themed new race, Alliance expansion story line, Alliance themed event gear.
Weâre the new Bain sitting in the corner in Oribos.
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I wanna know where our council is lol. Like what are they doing in TWW? (I want a side quest explaining this because Iâm generally curious)
TWW story seems interesting, Thrall can be our rep. Used to it at this point.
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Thatâs exactly what I was getting at earlier. Even as a die-hard Horde fan, it has to get on your nerves at some point that everything keeps spilling over from the Alliance. If someone actually enjoys turning into Alliance 2.0, you can hardly call them a true Horde fan, because deep down, they just want to be the Alliance, just with mainstream races like belves and Vulpera.
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