I gotta go to an event, so don’t have time to respond to Felsavior’s points, but what you quoted really isn’t trolling. The Horde did lose quite a bit. The only high point for some of us is Sylvanas and Gallywix leaving.
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Okay someone else that plays both horde and alliance please explain to them that yes they are the same dungeons but they play differently as in you don’t start at the same places or do the same things.
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What two races did the horde “genocide off the planet”
There are enough night elves left over not only to be used as cannon fodder in nazmir, but to also reclaim darkshore. Thats not very wiped out to me.
And the second race issssss? Forsaken? They are still kicking too and the alliance had just as much to play in them being “genocided off the earth”. Otherwise no clue what you are talking about.
And that wasnt even really a victory, just a tragedy.
Its literally the exact. Same. Dungeon.
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Think of it more as “horde privilege”. It’s called Horde Mode for a reason 
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I really don’t care about that stuff, to be frank. I’m here for the story, and that’s it, and so far I’ve been nothing but disappointed.
I’m not saying it might not be an issue, but it’s really not an issue that directly effects me.
I’m more tired of, narratively speaking, horde constantly losing basically at everything. 
When people whine about 'Horde bias" it is generally due to story telling, not game play stuff.
I imagine the mechagnomes are blizzards way of giving alliance some edge in stuff due to how powerful their passives are.
Vulpera are cute, but they offer zero PvE advantages. I also play a Tauren, so clearly I don’t care about that stuff either.
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Your arrogance has made this conversation not worth my time. Peace
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Nevermind - it was a joke I buried the lead on. Suffice it to say, if you’re saying Horde lost BFA, I have an entire Classic Alliance Race that takes issue with your assessment there… especially since we never even came close to repaying that.
Once Alliance get to inflict comparable ‘tragedies’ to Horde, maybe we can discuss that a bit more.
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“Horde favoritism”
Meanwhile the horde has now lost how many important characters? Let’s list them out.
Cairne
Saurfang
Vol’jin
Sylvannas (left the horde)
Garrosh
We will also be losing Gallywix soon mind you, and Thrall is barely a member of the Horde. Meanwhile the Alliance gets all teary-eyed over Varian’s death, because he’s pretty much the only Alliance character to die in over a decade.
Cry. Me. A. River.
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I am confused. Wasn’t that last MDI almost entirely NE?
Going to need some sources for that.
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Best Christmas present for WoW would be to get rid of Ion.
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Dude, all of our losses are in-game. You’re just too biased to see them.
We lost to the Blood Trolls in Nazmir and released an old god.
Our whole war campaign was 2 goals: Sceptre of Tides and Derrek Proudmoore’s body. Both of which you guys got with no consequences.
The whole point of us being in Zandalar was making a treaty with Rastakhan and getting access to the Zandalari fleet. You planted bombs on the fleet, tricked us into being somewhere else with the Sceptre of Tides (which you stole from the treasure vault of the oldest city in the world without anyone knowing, somehow) and then killed Rastakhan. Then Jaina froze the ocean and escaped. We killed no one.
Our most badass hero had to be hugged into rebelling by the Alliance kid-leader.
We needed the Alliance to help us rescue Baine. We needed the Alliance to march on Ogrimmar. At which point our Warchief mooned us all, killed Saurfang, gave us the finger and flew away.
You get to win both Warfronts canonically, though there’s no way to show it in-game because it’s basically a washing machine of a zone just sudsing round and round.
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Gally’s as gone as Sylvanas. Doesn’t matter whether he dies, he’s not in the Horde anymore.
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Blizzard’s Playbook for Faction Conflict:
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Horde shove Alliance’s face into the mud every time.
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Horde shove each other’s faces into the mud over the manner in which they’re owning the Alliance - dishonorably vs. honorably.
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Horde inflict unforced errors on themselves and divide when Alliance is all but lost.
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Alliance proceed to hate the story because all it is from their point of view is Horde owning them, then controlling a robot cat/spyglass to watch the Horde fall apart from the inside… then everything’s over.
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Horde proceed to hate the story because after some genocidal ownage of Alliance, they just keep smacking themselves in the face until things are even again.
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In the end, no one is happy.
Can’t wait for them to try it again in 10.0 or 11.0.
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I’m not ready to say the Devs are in the Horde tank (publicly) but the faction imbalance, de facto, is a problem, and it should lead to the dissolving of the factions. Because if 2 factions remain, servers basically pick one, and then we only have a 6+ race option instead of the full suite of options.
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And again…
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If you want to complain about favoritism just complain about the poor writing when it comes to the story in general. Like for example it’s not really favoritism when the horde loses on multiple fronts, because the writters seem to enjoy the generic good vs evil and horde and usually put into the antagonists shoes so it’s clear why they lose.
On the same note it makes sense why most of the story is wrapped up with the horde because they’re usually put into the central conflict for the stories the writers seem to enjoy telling. And as most generic stories go I’m sure you can all agree that the bad guys generally have more interesting stories compared to the good guys.
Really it’s all stupid in my personal opinion, and I really don’t think we should endlessly make these topics about either Alliance or Horde bias. Instead I very much so believe that you should just push that energy into the people leading these story lines because they’re what cause these issues.
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if there was horde favoritism blizzard would have let the horde wipe out the alliance there was several opertunities. blizzard had to go out of their way to make a side story inorder make it so the alliance survive every war.
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“But Dazar’alor…”
Meh.
You mean that one where Alliance invaded the race that never even heard of Teldressil, had nothing to do with Teldressil and wasn’t even a formal member of the Horde during the attack? The leader of which we never even met once during the Alliance story?
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