Faction imbalance doesn’t only affect the top players, it affects the whole realm. Absence of raiders has a trickle down effect on guilds, the economy, everything.
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Or, more realistically, the devs, while understanding that the faction imbalance is,
as Ion puts it, a “serious problem”, main horde and cannot see or even understand why the migration from the Alliance continues.
THEY don’t have recruiting or end game problems, they’re having fun and wonder why the Alliance aren’t.
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Really? When was the last time that the Alliance had access to Merc Mode? Five years???
Get rid of Merc Mode and let the horde feel the natural consequences of their decision.
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Has the game grown or gotten better since Ion has been in charge? I see all aspects of the game being complained about by the players–pvp, crafting/professions, class fantasy, class design, reward systems, lore, RP, overall lack of fun.
For those who are into football and saw the Dallas Cowboys lose again, Ion reminds me of the head coach of the Cowboys. The team has never gotten better with him in charge, yet he somehow keeps his job year after year.
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That’s not really horde favoritism. That’s a snowball effect coming all the way from Cata and MoP when horde racials got PvE buffs.
Before that point, the game achieved balance by making Alliance PvE racials kind of crap and by making Horde PvP racials kind of crap. This worked because most PvE players wanted to be Alliance, while most PvP players wanted to be Horde - incentives for each kind of player to go to the other side.
When they tried to make all racials equally good and accidentally the whole thing making Horde racials way too strong, too many people transferred over just to get those bonuses (hell there was even an entire tier with 2% bonus damage horde side, that’s like having going to a raid with 25.5 people while maintaining the 25 people difficulty, it’s huge). Now the racials are sort of balanced, but the way the game works means it’s just not viable to be Alliance anymore.
Ways to fix it: 1) make Alliance racials so OP that the top guys will transfer over and carry a ton of people over with them; 2) Cross faction, so that the people who want to be alliance can be alliance, this should balance populations over an expansion or two; 3) Incentives like the Call to Arms, but on more fronts (like in raids).
Tbh, the game works best when you can party with everyone, so playing the underdog is just not good, so that’s something they really need to find a fix to. Maybe add a mercenary mode for PvE? Like a toggle with a funny mask that lets you temporarily party with the other side?
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And those are the ones I said have the elitist attitude and want to be part of the top tier mythic raiding big boy’s club but even then they are still a minority of the player base.
Whoops! You mean, like that?
They spend tons of money researching this stuff, they deliberately OP’d horde racials, according to Ion, to get Alliance to reroll horde.
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The issue hasn’t been about racials for many years, it’s about going where the most like-minded players are.
I’m curious though, and this isn’t meant to be derogatory to you by any means but you don’t have any notable PvP or PvE progress on the account your posting on. Assuming that the account your posting on is your main account that you play on, can you tell me how this faction imbalance actually impacts you anyway?
Thank you for the honest question. This is my main and yes, I’m a casual player. But the trickle effect of losing talented PvP players is always felt in BGs and WPvP, something that I used to enjoy. Now it’s just trying to survive ganking and corpse camping as I quest.
All of my friends have rerolled horde. I’ve been through, what, three guilds in the last two expansions because they just dried up (I was the last member of one of the guilds and just took over the guild bank, but there wasn’t much in it) and it wrecks havoc on our economy as well.
However, they have admitted in the past that they like developing the Horde content first because it interests them more and then they get around to developing the Alliance stuff. Something about the Horde perspective isn’t common in fantasy stories so therefore “fresher” or along the lines of.
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Battlegrounds are always a mix. Nothing but a pure random mixture of horrible players, decent players, good players, and great players.
WPvP is never fair, it never has been and never will be. Both sides can come ahead of one another, it depends on how many are on each side, the terrain advantage, if one group is using comms and the other not, and how many idiots one side has compared to the other.
If they want to do endgame content then I can’t really blame them.
This is a common theme, especially this expansion, for both factions.
And I have NEVER heard a dev claim to proudly main Alliance.
I have heard them belittle Alliance players
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This is so obvious in all walks of life, yet some people on these forums are deluded. We all spend more time, thought, energy on things we enjoy and then just put minimal effort into things we don’t enjoy but still have to do. I don’t even have to know that the devs said this because you can see it in the final products. Kul Tiran is a perfect example. No one who designs a fantasy class that THEY INTEND TO PLAY will ever make a fat human like a kul tiran. The only reason that anyone could possibly think kul tirans is worthy of an allied race is when you have no intention whatsoever of ever playing them, so you don’t really care.
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Some of which caught on Blizzcon streams.
There was that one video they played that had a lot of fallout because it was like, “how did it even make it through the PR process?” Then there was the person asking the question about Alliance warcry in response to “For the Horde” to which the devs just responded with something that was rather demeaning.
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You obviously don’t understand that genocide means. Nobody has committed any genocide, on either faction. Burning some dumb tree down does not count as genocide. There’s just as many night elf mongrels now as there was before the bonfire.
The mechagnome racials were way overpowered, that’s why they got nerfed… not horde favoritism. Compare them to the blood elf racial. They are galaxies apart, and not heavily slanted at all in the alliance’s favor. Nope, not one smidgen.
Having played both factions, I can say that your only gripe that really holds water is…
What the eff is with all the danged horses?!?!
Alliance mounts do suck.
There was a whole raid where you killed the Zandalari King in the center of the Horde’s current base of operations and your leaders escaped without lasting harm despite being raid bosses… Call me when the Horde gets to canonically kill off a major Alliance leader in game.
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Already did, back in vanilla.
Among other things. It’s almost become an annual ceremony for them.
If they ever spoke that way to a horde player, there would be a riot.
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I love how you carefully worded the first part of your post to avoid admitting that he was not a part of the horde, much less a horde leader.
Try harder.
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He was becoming a Horde leader. He was essentially our commander for non-war-campaign Horde activity. His navy (which you destroyed) was the only reason the Horde had for doing anything in Zandalar. We spent the entire expansion trying to win his favor and then you just kill him, destroy the prize, and steal back the only victory we had prior.
Horde pretty much lost three leaders this expansion.