A lot of negative threads. I don’t really care about the pet/no pet debate. I just want it to be good numbers wise and fluid with the rotation.
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It is pretty smooth. The negative threads are from a very loud minority. RPers and casuals. Which is totally fine. They don’t get that the game isn’t designed around that play style, like, at all. They’ll be fine.
Still lots of bugs that need to be fixed but so far so good for the end game folks who have been begging for changes just like these for long long time now. MM is going to be put into a spot now where it can be developed without a furry anchor attached to it’s leg.
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The new change is not smooth. It forces you into a required repeating combo to enhance Aimed Shot with Black Arrow and Explosive Shot as fillers if it is not talented to buff Aimed Shot. Because the cooldowns are so off-set from each other you won’t always get your premium Aimed Shot. Also, because this combo is premium, you will spend a lot of lower damage GCDs during your limited time buff Trueshot. That means the luxury of spamming your best spender cannot and should not be done like Enhancement Shaman can spam Lightning Bolt/Tempest button during Ascendance or Assassin Rogue can spam Envenom during Deathmark. You can spam Aimed Shot but you will have to sacrifice triggering 4 AS buff talents. Basically you are trading in Moving Target, Spotter’s Mark, Improved Spotter’s Mark, and Tensile Bowstring talents for 100% effective Trueshot’s effect and spamming AS. Sim it, lol.
Needless to say, I feel this change is not smooth at all.
Maybe you meant the AE and Cleave change cause i like Salvo baked into Volley and all the Explosive Shot passive buffs
Plus i feel like this change uppity up the value of haste because of Quickdraw, Precision Detonation, Auto Shot, and Aimed Shot triggers and cast times becoming important thereby taking some points OUT of critical strike and mastery. It is a mess.
To put it all in perspective, Trueshot has lost its premium value against the Aimed Shot enhancers
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The game is increasingly casual though?
I’m mean, I’ve been here on and off since back when hunters could equip two quivers for extra speed on their attacks.
The game is super casual now compared to even a few expacs ago.
M+ are actually the minority and always have been – Blizz is finally figuring out casuals is where the $$$$$$ comes from (like every other MMO has already figured out).
That said, I’ve seen more hardcore players whine about the pet changes here on the forums about it than anyone else – personally, I’m fine with the changes but think the class/rotation needs to feel snappier and more mobile, but overall it’s fine.
–signed, filthy casual who stopped being hardcore back around Cata
@OP: it’s ok, and will be tweaked a few times I’m sure.
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Still early to tell due to too many bugs, but maybe we’ll have a better idea this week.
The rotation is more involved for sure.
… it’s been designed around that playstyle for 20 years.
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The elitist M+ players are loud, obnoxious, condescending and refuse to compromise by allowing MM to be able to summon pets. Even though the ability to summon pets has no effect on their gameplay. They are also the minority, as most want to keep the pets.
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The rotation is def better next patch. Number wise its way too early to tell
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Having a pet that allows you to cheese pve encounters is so OP the specs mobility\survivability is basically balanced around being able to have a pet. With solo content being a big thing in the future having MM balanced around having a tank and spank pet is boring. Play BM if you want to cheese encounters MM should have a different playstyle loop.
So saying “it doesnt effect lone wolf gameplay” is not completely true when the design of the rework\spec changes balance wise.
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condescendingly tells another MM hunter to change specs after 20 years.
No, it isn’t boring. I enjoy having my pet by my side. And it is no more or less OP than other pet classes or specs. Hunters have always been a pet class and taking pets from MM hunters is just Blizzards cheap way of trying to make a ranger spec by hijacking MM, rather than making a 4th spec.
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I thought taunt was OP? Now the pet itself is OP?
And if MM’s pet is being taken away, why aren’t they getting equivalent mobility and survivability to compensate?
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Im not being condescending? the devs are reworking MM so it has a different playstyle to the other 2 specs. So if you want tank and spank gameplay you will have to play one of the other specs. Unless they revert the change which is unlikely.
Well MM has been a unpopular spec for years now so just because you dont find it boring doesnt mean it doesnt need a rework\redesign.
Highly unlikely they will make a 4th spec that is just MM hunter but with no pet. Maybe instead of asking them to not rework MM ask for aimshot to be put on BM instead of kill command.
Yea a pet that is a taunt bot and can tank for you is OP.
Everybody that plays wow knows hunter is the best soloer in the game because of it so i have no idea why you are trying to tell me otherwise.
Are you generally trying to tell me that Hunter having a pet that can tank and spank isnt strong in solo content and bosses?
Then why does BM and SV still get their pet if it’s so OP?
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Because blizzard has decided that is what they want out of BM and SV gameplay.
They have decided that MM will play differently.
I am sure warlocks will just love it if they take their pets away too then… Not to mention the SV/BM hunters…
Having a pet tank is not OP.
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So, what you’re saying is the BM and SV are the vastly superior spec and no one should play MM at all because they will never be able to do the same content?
I just want to make sure I am clearly understanding your utterly facile point.
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You would think so but pet sac destro lock from MOP was the most popular lock was ever representation wise.
Okay you are being bad faith if you think classes with pets that can tank are not OP in solo content. Every single wow player knows hunter is one of the strongest specs for solo content for that reason.
No, MM should be designed without a pet and should have more mobility\survivability\utility. Obviously its early days of the rework.
That ship has sailed - MM is still being designed with a pet today. Let’s focus on what is real, not some hypothetical.
Not possible without making MM so powerful it makes other classes useless, in your own words.
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