The Honor System is currently listed to be released in Phase 2.
The transition would be far smoother if the Honor System were released with MC and for them to cap honor ranks at Rank 11 during phase 1 and 2.
Reasons:
The Honor System will provide a valuable endgame outside of the raids which won’t take nearly as long to progress through.
PvP blue gear will be outclassed by phase 1 raid gear. Many of those seeking upgrades will start World PvPing to rank up.
Nope. We should get our wpvp time just for the sake of pvp. /thread
Decent. How about the honor system though? Ship it with Phase 1 and cap it at rank 11.
No. If you think that you obviously never pvpd in vanilla.
A lot of ‘Vanilla’ has been happening since Vanilla on private servers and they have this stuff down to a science. Decking yourself out in mostly PvE gear is much better.
I think it’ll be fine.
The BG rewards (even the reputation ones) are on par with BWL level gear. Adding in higher tiered gear to a lower tier will break stuff…
Lets just, relax and smell the roses…
BGs are currently listed as unknown release date, unless there was a blue post recently when that changed.
I’d like to see it without. Screw the ranks let’s kill people for the sake of killing them. Yes. I know that sounds quite sadistic but yup that’s how I feel about it. Lol.
but the stats on the gear the blues are really close to T1 gear… Adding in this gear right off the bat along with the rep rewards will not do justice and trivialize the whole 1st raids tier.
Only blue gear is accessible up to Rank 11. Blue gear is worse than MC gear in PvE. Reputation gear is at times, slightly better than dungeon blues and below MC gear.
Nothing is right off the bat. It takes months of honor grinding to get that gear.
No thanks
The more world pvp the better.
Hope you’re ready for a sea of skeletons in stv and tarren mill.
DPS wise.
However. You just need a couple weeks of PvP to be 100% decked in blues that are T1 equivalent even if they arent tuned towards PVE dps and +hit…
This is 100% not true…
It doesnt take “months” to reach R11… Not even close.
I updated the thread to read Honor System.
It will be months after Classic’s release before there is a rank 11 in the game. What do you think the timeframe will be?
It’ll be months after release due to the time gate of being behind BWL.
As far as how long it’ll take somebody to hit that R11?
I give it a solid month…
Theres a certain number of slots you can fill each week with HWL being only 1 slot per week so a good PvP WSG premade group will probably smash through rankings
But if there’s no Battlegrounds, just world PvP?
I’m going to take the middle ground between OP and ^that…
I think there should be a period of time when WPvP is all we can do, in order to properly represent how it was during actual vanilla…
That being said, I don’t think skipping the entire MC tier is the right answer either… and think PvP should be ~the halfway point of MC at latest.
Not that anyone asked for this bit, but I’d also personally prefer there be a shorter “tier 0” where there aren’t any raids unlocked, and gearing is straight dungeons for a (again short) period of time. If that became a reality, PvP might be able to come right as MC/etc came out.
Honor and PvP ranks should be released between phase 2 and 3 imo, before bwl but with enough time to have mc stay relevant in terms of gear for PvP
Well. The honor ranking system isnt going to be dropped until BG’s as far as I am aware so… Wpvp will be just Wpvp until the BG’s and honor system drops
Cuz, if they are time gating BG’s and their rewards… Then the honor system and the blue R9/10 gear will be gated as well with the honor system being introduced at the same time as BG’s so people cant skip gearing farming HK’s in world which is pretty much impossible because they have DR’s in world.
THIS. Tier 0 is a great idea. Get people on an even playing field before letting them collect their epics items from MC. This also helps with the issue of premades trampling people when BGs come out.