I was in a mythic+ and this holy Paladin was easily doing 6k hps at item level 210. I took a look at details and saw he was only using insta cast healing spells (wog, holy shock, and glimmer). I was impressed. I switched to holy and got my item level to 205 and tried out some single target healing on myself against the tanking dummy but only managed a mere 2.7k single target. Is this normal? I was using melee build. What are some tips and what kind of single target hps should I put out?
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He was getting his beacon healing probably, and he may have stacked crit more than you maybe which you wont get on a single dummy. He might also have talents you didnāt put since people have different views on some of the higher Tier talents (e.g Awakening or Divine Purpose). Did you have recount up? It can tell you more. btw, glimmer has way less throughput than BoV, I did not believe it until I went into RBGs to use it and its a real AOE heal tool. I think glimmer is too soft now post BFA and double beacon is a waste. BoV takes skill but well timedā¦ 100k heals from Divine Toll + conduit (each holy shock is distributed to each beacon) , and 120k heals from HL (50k + (3 other players for 25k). Yeah Glimmer feels weak compared to BoV. Hope this helps.
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The main reasons people take Glimmer is.
- The mana efficiency
- The constant access to single beacon
- The fact that Glimmer can be used offensively for additional dps when healing isnāt needed.
- Massive Synergy with Kyrian Covenant.
This isnāt a āBoV is badā because it is very good for itās function, giving you on demand burst healing, itās just that youāre giving up the three things I mentioned.
Thereās several factors youāre missing whenever you just spam heals on a training dummy. Namely the glimmers on multiple targets and the beacon of light transfers. In addition, the hpally in question likely was using his cooldowns efficiently to generate well timed bursts of healing. Thereās also little things like if he was running Judgment of Light and where people benefitting from it?
how do you account for smooth brain stand in every mechanic dps during high sustain damage periods like āā getitng hit by pride orbsāā but everyone else is also low with glimmer
hope and prayers? lol alot of these dps also dont use defensives
āWah class bad because other player badā
You canāt heal stupid. The game is a team effort and if the other players are failing to do their part then they deserve to die.
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i heal stupid just fine on my shaman tho
im pumping 9k-11k hps with just a totem
your doing 6k with wings and feeling satisfied like
call the class out for being what it is a garbage overall design of a class
nearly every group is a pug only like 10-20percent of players play together in a full group if you go off āāguild achievementsāā
if you get a mechanic that requires you out of melee and you need that CS for holy power during high sustain damage period someone is going to die
base your theory off top holy pally all you want i saw there streams highest avoidable damage taken was like 10k THESE ARE MECHANICAL GODS meanwhile avg for most groups i seen is like 150k
there is a reason no one pugs holy pally at 15ās all those holy pallys are running own key or in a group of friends
this class is never going to improve until end of xpac with scaling because people are happy with being mediocre and i dont know why
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and im sorry for venting but i want to play holy pally but i cant get into groups because the class is doo doo at pugging and holy pally community being ok with us being worse than any other healer at our role (Except mw) is just annoying
ATLEAST holy palyl is gods in pvp tho lol
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Ok? Paladin isnāt just bringing HPS, itās also bringing dps that means mobs die faster = do less damage. Itās also bringing damage reduction through itās cooldowns and passively through devotion aura, things which arenāt recorded on logs. Paladins have the tools, you just need to know when to use them. And yes, even using your tools there will always be bad players. Iām sure thereās stupidity out there that even resto shammy canāt fix
And hey, if you really REALLY have to power heal stupid, you can infact run BoV if glimmer isnāt enough, just because we advocate it as the better option because of all the things it brings and synergizes with the kit doesnāt mean that you completely lack options elsewhere.
Beacon of Virtue is great for pugs. Glimmer is efficient in groups that know mechanics and how to avoid damage. Its also great in raids.
1/4 of the healing for only 500 more dps and x50 times the effort
great trade off 10/10 my point about happy being mediocre
If youāre going to make a stupid outlandish claims at least post on this magical shaman of yours. These numbers are in no way real, and with that Iām going to assume neither is your shaman
Go look at warcraft logs and try again
shaman has your wings without cool down but keep being happy about being mediocre lol
also pally burst heals for 6k - druids/disc priest/shamans burst heal for twice that if your going to be rude and try call someone out atleast read the entire context and not try to attack strangers
What am I looking at in warcraft logs because currently nothing there supports your outlandish claims
again OP was talking about burst healing
context dont be upset at me because you came in here lost go read the entire thing
come back level headed or dont ping me tbh
Itās clear you have no idea wth is going on, if youāre just wanting burst healing nothing beats a holy pally with Ashen Hallow.
Also its weird youāre ātalking about burst healingā but then you tell me to go look at warcraft logs. So trollā¦
using a 4min cooldown to beat someone for 30 secs compare to them straight up doing what you do without the cd? boy sit down please go look at logs
theres a reason why holy pally is middle of the pack
you came in here so confused
OP talked about how a pally is doing 6k burst healing in m+
i commented how shamans ( and other healers) are doing twice that without wings
you came in here all confused because smooth brain
now your talking about some 4 min cd NOONE USES everyone is kyrian and shamans basically have ashen hallow is on a 30 sec CD so what are you even trying to tell me?
Yeah I see you completely ignored the damage mitigation as well. Iāll let someone else with more patience then me scream at this brick wall.
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Seriously. Clearly someone just looking to stir the pot. Still trying to find the single totem skill that pumps out 12k hps, Iām probably just a bad shaman
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damage mitigation which is bought by all 3 specs 
i rest my care
hey you said it not me
do you know how cloud burst totem works? it was tricky at first but im sure earthshrine will help you out!