High Elves are not blue-eyed Blood Elves

Enduring-herod · April 10, 2020, 4:51pm

didnt they once say that BE would eventually go back to blue eyes or something to that effect?
regardless, its an eye color you will only see if you take the time to look at it and you are acting like the sky is falling lmao

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 4:51pm

Nobody said otherwise. Kul Tirans and Humans are also the same race, and yet they occupy an additional slot on the race selection screen.

Dynaheir-azgalor · April 10, 2020, 4:52pm

Not only are Blood Elves also High Elves, but it has been like this since Warcraft 3! The HIGH ELVES of Silvermoon City, renamed their race, from HIGH ELF to BLOOD ELF, after Arthas ran-sacked Quel’thalas, with his Scourge army, in honor of their fallen comrades, who paid with their BLOOD!

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 5:00pm

The problem with that is that High Elves are currently an Alliance subfaction. Adding High Elves to the Horde would be like adding Stormwind Humans to the Horde.

Horde can have those Kul Tiran pirates they allied with during BFA. That wouldn’t be lore-breaking, see?

Plus, you already have Mag’har Orcs, your “Kul Tiran” equivalent.

Vidris-bronzebeard · April 10, 2020, 5:15pm

Theres a couple groups. The SC and them could easily unite together make a unified separate faction of High Elves serving with Alliance colors. Even better if they work alongside the Void Elves all things considered.

I support the folk asking for High Elves. Its not unreasonable.

Some gameplay issues. But the Lore is there, and I see why they want it.

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 5:16pm

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Snikrot-silver-hand · April 10, 2020, 5:17pm

I’m not interpreting the op wrong because I’m not interpreting. Maybe you should read the rest of this topic and how adamantly he is arguing with everyone distinctly claiming that blood elves are NOT high elves.

Lol you should figure out what an interpretation is.

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 5:19pm

Are you claiming that Blood Elves are killing Horde players in the Stormwind portal room?

Snikrot-silver-hand · April 10, 2020, 5:19pm

I am claiming that blood elves are high elves as stated by blizzard.

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 5:20pm

They are the same race, but they’re not the same group of people.

Snikrot-silver-hand · April 10, 2020, 5:23pm

Yea so you need to stop saying that blood elves aren’t high elves because they are. What you need is to figure out a new name for the alliance high elves instead of making the claim that high elf only applies to them and not blood elves.

What you’re basically saying is that Kul Tirans are not human because they choose to call themselves kul tirans. It’s why many have started to cal “humans” as stormwind humans to signify the difference between the regular human playeable race and the kul tiran playeable race.

Blood elves ARE high elves regardless of what they choose to call themselves and you stating that they are not is factually wrong.

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 5:27pm

Blood Elves are High Elves in terms of biological race, but they are not High Elves in terms of society. That’s why every time I say Blood Elves are not High Elves I specifically specify between parentheses what I mean.

Elisande makes the difference between High Elves and Blood Elves. Is she wrong as well?

It’s not our fault that the subfaction of High Elves are also named High Elves. Want me to call them Silver Elves? Does that help you understand what I mean better?

Blood Elves are not Silver Elves. Just like Kul Tirans are not Stormwind Humans. Better?

Snikrot-silver-hand · April 10, 2020, 5:28pm

Yes because now it’s not factually wrong. And no one has issues with you calling the alliance group “high elves” (or maybe they do, I don’t care). The issue is you stating that blood elves aren’t high elves and that’s wrong.

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 5:28pm

Ok. Well we want Silver Elves.

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 5:29pm

When I mean “high elves” as the cultural group, I’m not wrong.

Snikrot-silver-hand · April 10, 2020, 5:31pm

And we’ve decided you need a new label just like people have decided stormwind humans is the human playeable race and not just “humans” because that includes kul tirans and kinda gilneans

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 5:34pm

Sure, I can agree with that.

Vidris-bronzebeard · April 10, 2020, 5:34pm

The Blood Elves chose to change their name though…

So those who didn’t would still call themselves High Elves.

While those who took on the new name are Blood Elves.

Those in the Alliance are not Blood Elves. They’re just High Elves.

We all agree that Blood Elves and High Elves are the same race, but the names do have different meanings in the current world and those who remain with the Alliance or alliance aligned are generally not the ones who changed their name willingly to Blood Elf. (I say entirely ignoring Void Elves in this little argument)

Dynaheir-azgalor · April 10, 2020, 6:01pm

Care to explain why High Elven AND Blood Elven architecture is the SAME in BOTH factions? Sylvanas Windrunner was once the Ranger-General of Silvermoon, AND a High Elf! Sounds like a very similar society, if you ask me, to that of the Blood Elves.

Leinadh-stormrage · April 10, 2020, 6:28pm

Gameplay/design reasons. Kul Tirans, Gilneans and even Undead technically should have few to zero differences in terms of architectural design.

High Elves would have a different architecture should they be a different allied race (as well as a different model). Dalaran’s architecture changed in WoTLK (go check Dalaran crater) too.

… and Nathanos was a (living) Human. Does that mean Undead shouldn’t be playable, because they’re the same race as Humans, just (un)dead?