The people “anti” don’t care enough to keep a megathread going about something that won’t be in the game to begin with.
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where’s the normal helf megathread when we need it to control all this spam… bloody hell
Now before people think I am anti-High Elf or something, if Blizzard had designed the game differently I’d be all for Alliance getting them as playable. But Blizzard chose to do the hard faction wall so I feel the factions should remain as “pure” as possible.
Personally I love player races, I’m a huge fan of the more player races the better. Make it playable and someone will play it, if someone plays it it was worth making playable.
I very much prefer the way EQ2 does things; everyone can play with everyone and there are good, evil and neutral races. WoW would have significantly benefited from having Alliance races, Horde races and Neutral races that pick a side at creation but allowing everyone to guild and group together.
They’re high elves the same way fel orcs are still orcs.
It’s not happening. Making poorly constructed and badly written stories won’t make it happen, either.
There are TWO Elven races in the game, one for each faction. A race that is traditionally supposed to be aloof and secretive. Enough already.
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I don’t really roleplay so no thank u.
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at least fel orcs look different enough from normal orcs that they can be recognized at a glance lol
Then stop whining that you can’t roll a high elf character and re-read the Lore. There are no more high elves, except for a tiny minority most of which live in Dalaran. It would actually break the lore of the game to allow people to make high elves characters.
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Maybe if you’re using a microscope.
Void Elves were made out of Blood Elves, NOT High Elves already on the alliance. So we got a simulacra of the model -the lest relevant part- with none of the lore -what I actually want-
As I said, I would have been okay with VE’s with a HE backstory, cause again , the lore is the important thing here, not the model.
There’s no way with people like you, is it? I don’t care about the model, that’s my point, so I say, let’s give it another ones, but then HOW DARE I suggest that.
You are the ones making the stink about the model. I don’t care about it. I try to offer a compromise where you keep your model and HE’s get something else, but that is ALSO unacceptable because suddenly you care about lore.
For you the only compromise here is “No High Elf”
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The lore is important to you, until we discuss the model. Then the lore doesn’t matter.
Got it.
I just wanted to make sure I clearly understood how important the lore is to you, before it suddenly didn’t matter.
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Its not speculation. Its been confirmed their eye color changes due to the energies from the sunwell, Right now, its powered by a Naaru known as M’uru.
Now, the other points. As a whole, they left the alliance the first chance they got. Their being in the alliance was nothing more then fulfilling a pact with a deceased king. Once they did that, they left. Some came back.
Now, lets look at those groups you listed. Known members of the highvale total 4. They are there because the high elves and wildhammer get along very well. Some even were going to send refugees to live with the wildhammer clan during the attacks on their homeland. So its an association to the alliance because of the wildhammer.
The Silver Covenant is much the same. They are with the alliance due to Valleria. Currently listed known members equals 18.
Then you have the Allerian. Currently listed known members equals 6. They reside in the outlands so their eyes will eventually turn green due to exposure to the surrounding fel.
Now population, just stop will ya? Void elvs = high elves. You can make more void elves. You’d know that if you ever played one. They are comprised of blood / high elves who take part in the void. More can take part and thus, more can be made.
Now the second false statement of it being speculation. Again, High elves are literally seen becoming void elves. Its Fact. Not speculation. Go do the quest line would ya? It will clear up your misconceptions. They are called high elf wayfarers.
As for the rest, you’re trying to discredit anything else, which is why your arguments for their inclusion fail. The silver covenant is part of the kirin tor, who did exist prior to wrath.
The two groups you list, make up 22 members. Can’t make more of them like you can a void elf.
The silver covenant is a Small, Minor fraction of the remaining high elves and does not serve as a group large enough to suddenly be an allied race.
So, answer the question: How do you recruit from a race that is largely scattered and not unified with any leader and who, for the most part, Left the alliance on their own accord?
1 small group is not enough.
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But we have Void Elves. See, this is the issue. people keep bringing the pop argument as if it was the reason and not just a justification.
Sure, because player populations are TOTALLY, representative of lore populations.
If HE’s were some sort of “Hero race” and only one could be made per server, would that be enough? Or is this argument just a smokescreen for a firm “No High Elf” stance?
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I never said, and I never made the argument, that player populations were representative of lore populations. My argument was actually the inverse of that - That it makes no sense for players to be allowed to play a race of which there are only about 30 known actual members. It’s lore breaking.
I am very precise with my words. And you should try to be more precise with your reading.
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Come on, how disingenuous you have to be? So because I say no biological differences like behavior and aesthetics could allow for a different model for HE’s, so people like you stop crying about us wanting to take your model, then I don’t care about the lore?
So if I don’t care about the lore, nor the model, then why I can’t to play a high elf?
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No, its a none issue. Anyone who has recruited them and started one sees this. They are those who dabbled in the void and succeeded. They come from high elves and blood elves. Thanks to Alleria and her teacher, they can be. Their ranks grow. They are not restrained to a small number. They can increase their ranks, and have been as we have been seeing repeatedly. They grew large enough to be a driving force in the attack on Undercity.
Stop looking at them as some catch 22. They aren’t.
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Like you are literally pulling out numbers out of your lower anatomy at this point dear lord.
Like I get it, your thing is to use flimsy speculation as facts.
Tell, me, where is it confirmed in game that Void Elves CURRENTLY can make more? Seriously, all your “facts” are speculation. You actually are trying to divine population from named NPC’s dear lord. Do you realize that by your own shody logic there are LESS Void Elves that High Elves??
What a mess.
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And here we have you again, passing speculation as facts. Where is the confirmation of this? Come on, quit the BS.
Show me the evidence, because beyond elves studying the void, there is simply no confirmation that the VE’s can, or are willing, to replicate the process that MADE them on the first place! Which was a botched experiment.
So even if they COULD bolster their numbers just with training, they’d HAVE to look like Alleria, not the original Void Elves.
For the 10th time, speculation aren’t facts. Either make an argument, or bring some facts with sources, but stop pretending everything you type is a fact.
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Guess what.
Allied Races didn’t stop the Horde from getting 2 reskins of regular races like Highmountain and Mag’har. Same with the Alliance. So High Elves are happening where there’s still the demand. Whether you like it or not.
So called Two Elven Races are overdone reskins with blue skin color that the Scheme of blue for elves is getting boring and forcedly dull.
So there’s near enough for anything. Including Wildhammer Dwarves, Forest Trolls, Mok’thanal Orcs, San’layn, High Elves, Etc, and etc.
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Not out of no where. Using in game sources and wow.gamepedia.
As for where in the game, enter the void elf starting area. You’ll see it there :), happening on the second small island. Oh, and Magistrate Umbric says hi, as do all the other void elves that started out as a blood elf or high elf. But yeah, lets ignore the fact that they were not a void elf their entire lifes.
My logic doesn’t say there are less void elfs. You actively ignoring lore and in game evidence, such as the battle for undercity, apparently does mean that. I’ll just go tell Anduin that he didn’t have that regimen of void elves helping to attack Nazmir like he thought.
Starting. Area. Go there. Second island. You see three of them being trained to start to control the void. You see Allerias teacher training others on the starting island.
I mean, we already have confirmation that they don’t. Alleria looks like that because she absorbed a void lord. Something that most of them don’t end up doing.
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Do we see any of those elves TURN into a Void Elf?
Are we told that they CAN be turned into Void Elves?
Are we told they CAN replicate the process?
Speculation is not confirmation. This is ridiculous.
Void Elves look like that because of a specific event that WE HAVE NO CONFIRMATION OR EVEN IMPLICATION that it can be recreated. Come. On.