What is your purpose in this response besides being pedantic?
The Alliance isnât entitled to anything.
Thatâs like saying the Horde is entitled to ask for Humans, which is a key race to the Alliance. Factions are defined by the races which are a part of them. It dilutes the factions when these races cross over without any change. Which is ultimately what high elves would be. The same race.
By lore, you canât claim differences between them without breaking it.
Design wise, you create an unequal design that is hard to overcome without essentially diluting the factions further.
Update I have checked this out and read it! The first works of his Iâve ever read oof!
I do see his style of writing is very very descriptive I found it a bit difficult to follow so I had to re read it!
Very good at setting a fantasy setting though wow! World of Warcraft is my only real perception of high fantasy, I tend to gravitate to low fantasy I think is ASOIAF or period dramas, or in terms of other games SWTOR I think itâs why I could never get into ESO I tried but I returned it lol.
I believe it was first introduced as a Horde model. The vanilla model was different.
I donât know what to tell you. You scream into the void and sometimes it screams back. I mean the internet void not WoW magic. You want visibility, we deserve the same. The forums donât just exist to placate your views. Just because what different kinds of high elves (though I suspect it does) look like doesnât matter to you doesnât mean that it doesnât matter to others, no matter how much you dismiss it or act haughty about it. Just because you donât value something doesnât mean itâs insubstantial.
If Alliance players were asking for their own Orcs you would have a point. Or Ogres. I wouldnât support it. Blood Elves and High Elves are not the same though because they ripped off Alliance to give Blood Elves to the Horde. I know you will argue, but that is where it is at.
Yet elven sorceresses and priests were still available to them in WC3.
You mean after killing their emissary and scouts who were sent to investigate machines that exploded? (Pretty sure they wouldnât have hung around the area, if they were the ones who caused it.) Kinda hard to blame them, after that.
Do the words âAllerian Strongholdâ or âIsle of Thunderâ mean anything to you?
No. They are not. The only elves who have ever been part of the Horde, besides nightborne, are blood elves.
If that were true, then the Horde elves would be the ones still calling themselves high elves, and the ones on the Alliance side would be the ones who changed their name.
Yes, because ultimately, those who can play the race do get priority over those who cannot play the race on their faction. It is in the same vein as asking for orcs for the alliance.
There was an entire story from WC 2, to WC 3, explaining how a massive majority of the high elves chose to pull out of the alliance and return to isolationism. You then had an entre story in TBC explaining how, and why the blood elves chose the Horde over the Alliance.
I get your view on why you see the high elf race as belonging to the alliance, but the story ultimately demonstrated that they broke away from the alliance and became free to choose who would aid them.
in the case of the story, the alliance chose not to help them and the horde chose to do so.
Arguing about who is entitled to what is meaningless when ultimately, to play the high elf race you need to go red.
I get why you want them and the reasons behind it, I simply do not agree with it and believe you are ignoring important factors behind it.
IâŠdonât understand the reply.
She says she was concerned you left the discord without saying anything, andâŠyou say it is BS?
Just because people disagree with you about high elves, does not mean they cannot empathize with you or have concern regarding you as a person. Shoot, if everyone knew what each otherâs personal lives were at the moment, do you think theyâd be so cruel as to not empathize or have concern?
Which were explained as being a part of Jainaâs entourage. They did not represent their race in any capacity, as the race itself, was busy getting ripped up by Arthas in his storyline remember?
And?
It doesnât change what occurred.
Blood elves said âcan you help?â
Alliance said âno.â
Let alone if we are going to discuss the matter.
It was determined the emissary was a spy, and the scouts had no business being there to further spy on people who were already struggling to survive. It doesnât really enamor them to look at you fondly, and they still requested aid anyway.
Nope, because
The allerian stronghold high elves also appeared in a neutral capacity in WotLK
The SIlver covenant is not representative of the race. They are a group who represent themselves and nothing more. Who also, are abiding Dalaranâs neutrality clause as well.
Aaaan blood elves are literally high elves with a name to honor the dead. Youâre just arguing semantics.
Did WC3 not happen? There is an entire explanation about their name change and it has nothing to do with loyalty to the alliance.
Actually not arguing, just reminding the devs what was asked for instead of what was delivered and is still being requested, the only arguments are between players. Were not arguing with the devs.
Where is it written that this is the law? If thatâs the case then Void Elves and NB shouldnât be a thing. Pandaren as well. So clearly that isnât a bloody rule According to Blizz, just players. This is what is wrong with this game at the core.
Itâs not because Alliance races have been fighting orcs since they came to Azeroth and went on their rampage.
I donât have to play Horde to play a Blood Elf because they concocted Void Elves, remember? The same elves who
Remember?
Assuming that is Fyreâs alt, I can remember the things that were said. I am not going to delve into it any farther than that since it is not forum appropriate.
Void elves = significantly edited
Night borne = significantly edited
Pandaren= neutral by default.
high elves = literally the exact same as blood elves.
Your argument does not really apply because it is quite clear that high elves donât fit into ny of the three categories above. Theyâre not different from blood elves, and the high elf race wasnât made a playable neutral race from the beginning. it is a matter of design, and they donât fit into those aspects you believe isnât a firm rule.
It is when you look at it from a design view and not a lore view. Heck, if youâre arguing past lore, then the high elf race shouldnât be allied with anyone because they fought with almost every single race theyâve had to deal with, if the past lore mattered theyâd not be playable at all.
I do, and I also remember part of the void elf storyline is them not agreeing with their people joining the Horde.
If I prefer to be allied with France, but my leader allies with Sweden, that does not mean I was a personal ally to Sweden since I never helped them or chose to help them in the first place.
Look, just because I think someone is pig headed on a subject does not mean I think they themselves are a bad person. That is left to how they behave and act outside of that specific instance. I disagree politically with my in laws, but still hold concern for them. Donât think that disagreement in one means people will dislike you on apersonal level.
Letâs be clear. What I am talking about doesnât even have to do with the forums or arguing about High Elves. There was definitely âpersonal dislikeâ and not just one person.
Hrmm, well I cannot speak on it because I was not privy to it.
Weâve had our own discussions and while they have been contentious, theyâve largely been cordial.
In anycase, I do hope you, and everyone else here does stay safe in these trying times. Donât go out if you donât have to all right?
Oh? In what way does criticizing your view on this subject, function as an attack upon you as an individual?
You are not your argument, if you are taking it personally, then you are being mistaken on the matter.