Hunans did not restore the Arcandir. I know this for certain. It was the effort of the nighrborne and one un-affiliated NE druid that restored the arcandor.
I would say they are split between most NE and BE with a few HE in the mix.
I only recall dalaran troops there to prevent the elven armies fighting with khadgar making a cameo.
Anyways, I think half elves if made with the right customizations can closely resemble HE, but as a core race with a different model and skeleton then their parents races. I also want to see who would lead them and what they can do (either Aratar or one of Verresaâs kids)
Notably khadghar, there were a couple of VAlâsharrah refugees in shalâaran, as well as a couple of night elf highborne, all alliance leaning races.
They were shelfed during BfA, thereâs a difference.
The same as high elves being shelfed during BfA, and now SL.
This is common for several races or factions that Blizzard chooses to not involve (despite it not making sense in the narrative)
There were a few highborne and valâsharrah refugees involved in the questline as well, the fact that there werenât any blood elves says something.
Iâm not going to argue over neutrality because the alliance go neutral every time there is a major threat at hand.
With humans too, the exact number of HEs is unclear since they had the same physical numbers as blood elves in game. I donât think thereâs a source expressing how numerous they were, nor do I see the relevance.
Edit: With all this being said, I donât want people to think they should have outright rejected the horde because the alliance or alliance-leaning races made up for 75% of the involvement, but it would have made more sense for them to be neutral narratively.
In World of Warcraft: Exploring Azeroth: The Eastern Kingdoms, Khadgar mentions being disappointed about the war, and refusing to participate in it.
This leads me to believe that Dalaran is neutral.
Night elf high born in suramar is not alliance leaning.
Khadgar played no role with the arcandor.
Dalaran was neutral during legion and bfa as part of a deal with khadgar joining the Korina tor.
This is an unknown due to the fact we only see what happened during the war in the bda zones we play in.
With the sole exception of Seifert of orgrimmar the 2nd, and we only see vereesa with alleria.
Not affiliated with alliance NE.
The time the nightborne with the mass of either faction was before their first charge into suramarâŚ
What? No they do not, the closest we get is fighting a common enemy but that is not true nuatrallity.
Humans played no role with charging suramar other then to prevent the elves from in fighting. The npcâs even comments on this.
dalaran had been neutral since khadgar joined the korin tor as a prerequisite.
It is the literal reason why Jiana left the Korina tor
That was Blizzards way of shelfing.
Letâs say Dalaran WERE involved in BfA, would you see a bunch of humans and high elves prancing around both Boralus and Dazaralor making sense? I donât think so.
This is the same for most races, it just so happens that alliance are almost always the neutral ones as seen with Dalaran, Shat, the draenei spaceship (dont remember what itâs called) during common theats.
Which is why I use the term âalliance-leaningâ a lot, because technically there are no strictly Alliance races since they often tend to be neutral, welcoming horde in their cities, etc. That doesnât mean theyâre equally buddbudds with the horde.
even if dalaran was in bfa, it would have little role in it due to khadgarâs neutrality.
Stormwind is Alliance, Dalaran is neutral. Theyâre both humans, but different groups of humans.
Also, Valewalker Farodin is literally one guy. Just because heâs a night elf doesnât automatically make him Alliance.
Exactly, which is why I said there are not strict alliance races when it comes to the larger picture.
Valewalker Farodin was among the several night elves in shalâaran (as Iâve mentionned above), you can even google shalâaran and thereâs a couple of night elf npcs there with the nightborne, all alliance leaning races.
Dalaran is an alliance nation that went neutral for the sake of fighting off major threats, this applies to pretty much all of the alliance races whom Blizzard makes their hubs neutral to fight off larger threats.
Like I said, would dalaran humans prancing around dazaralor make sense to you compared to them being in boralus? I donât think so.
Do you think the âneutralâ night elves would prance around dazaralor during bfa? I donât think so.
Narratively it would make sense for all of these neutral alliance-leaning factions/races/nations to join the alliance effort to stop Sylvanas from murdering everyone, but Blizzard obviously doesnât do so because that would be op lol. So they get shelfed
Valeera is neutral. That doesnât make blood elves neutral.
And yes, she is seen âprancing around Stormwindâ.
Valeera has been loyal to the alliance until Varianâs death, so it makes sense for her to be in SW, and was mia as Anduinâs messenger until 8.3, surpriseâŚwhen we fight a common cause.
And using your logic, that would make blood elves neutral yes.
Huh?
It was your logic to say a whole race was neutral because some of their members were, not mine.
I mean the blood elves sent a full division of blood knights.
(Which would be 2-6 times larger than say, 7th Legion)
Youâre comparing 1 lady, whoâs been alliance from the start, to an entire nation of night elves or humans.
Claiming they would be neutral despite the circumstances in BfA, they were shelfed.
Itâs not realistic to claim that these âneutralâ humans and night elves would be prancing around Dazarâalor despite Sylvanas trying to erase them because theyre âNeutralllâ
Iâm not sure what else to say, they were shelfed.
She still acts as a double agent you know⌠she is seen in boralasâŚ
What nation of night elves? It was Valewalker Farodin.
Also, Valeera isnât Alliance. Sheâs neutral. She had personal loyalty to Varian and his family, but not to the Alliance as an organization.
I am aware of this, she dooesnt doanything useful other than act as a messenger for baine/anduin though, until 8.3 where we fight a common cause.
Sheâs been fighting strictly alongside the alliance pre-bfa too.
I think you are over looking the fact she only acts in the interest of the Wrynnâs and not for the alliance as a whole.
Pre-Legion. She was involved in the rogue stuff.
Prior to Legion Varian was still alive.