No, Void Elves are Void Elves. You were given RP options, thatâs it, that wonât change the fact that Void Elves are Void Elves in the canon.
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But it was thanks to the High Elf Demand on the Alliance that made Void Elves in the First Place. So they kind of are the Blue Manâs Version of High Elves except Blueberry with other skin tunes.
/looks at avatar level
Oh. You´re a NEFPA⌠silly me, wasting time with your rabid ilk.
Consider yourself and your angry retorts ignored, I have enough of you to contend with on SF to ALSO have to do the same here.
Don´t waste your time, you´re arguing with the modern version of the MHP poster trope (NEFPAS only accept the complete defeat and virtual deleting of the Horde as an âacceptableâ solution for the Teldrassil fiasco⌠I mean there´s a reason we on SF stopped bothering with them).
/facepalm
Are you even paying attention to my argument or just here to verbally fight just for the sake of it? Cause I´m talking about how a BAD management of the lore of the race that was EXECUTED in game caused the fiasco we´re arguin about right now.
You just mention gameplay mechanics that are NOTHING but proving my point once again dude. You literally mention the VANILLA (as in POST WC3) lodges and âAllianceâ coded NPCs in game acting like their code is supposed tyo make them work.
You aware a discussion forum is precisely to argument and counter argument, right?
And then I get criticized when I say the WORST portion of the Helfer crowd is effectively the one only interested in perpetuating their echo chambers.
So if you think we actually issuing counter arguments to your petitions and you people just going /puts fingers on ear channels and chanting ânuuuuuuuuuh!!!â makes your position more credible well⌠we´re reaching te part you guys become actually pitiable.
Where this units deployed in the actual TFT game? No? Then sorry they´re as canon as that Red version of the Nightborne Heritage Set is⌠so to say, not at all.
You know, thi is the issue with you guys, you believe headcanons and speculation are âfactsâ as long as they benefit your âargumentsâ. And that´s not how things work in the real world.
Nope, sorry but if you guys actually had an ounce of honesty and decency in your bodies you would aknowledge those EXCLUSIVE Belf options wouldn´t be ever available for Velves -just like the tentacles et all aren´t and won´t be ever available for Belves-. Stop trying to parasite all and every aspect you can from the Belf race, tyvm.
She didn´t even read my proposals after getting chastised by me about not reading it, so it´s pretty clear they only care over people telling them blindly âyes to cloning Belves on Velvesâ and that´s it. Nothing else people writes is getting read by these people.
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The editor also has an Uther model. That doesnât mean he was alive for TFT.
Also I hope youâre not pointing to a hidden model in a game from 2019 to discuss what was canon in 2004.
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It comes off as something made to have the demands of something that was never going to happen to stop, but Blizzard was too naive.
And no matter what it wonât change the fact that Void Elves are Void Elves, donât try to strip them of their identity because you canât accept something that should have been left behind 15 years ago.
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No. They are not. They have changed to something else. Stop trying to pretend they are.
Your natural hair colors and discount HE isnât gonna happen bruh.
Actually no, it was blizz being a bunch of lazy pansies that wanted to make an easy race. Nothing more, nothing less.
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If you had an ounce of honesty and decency in your body you would acknowledge that there is nothing wrong with giving Void Elves more non-void options. Hair colors and hair styles arenât exclusive to the Blood Elf race, as Void Elves are not story restricted from styling and color their hair in ways that they used to before being infused with Void. Those options are just as worth to Void Elves as they are on Blood Elves, and you know that. They will be available to them soon by the way, and youâll just have to accept that when it happens instead of whining like you seemingly do each message you make. It doesnât steal from Blood Elves, and they would be getting actual exclusive options too.
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Says thisâŚ
Then ignores the entire context of most races being allowed to maintain their own unique aesthetics.
I hate that I lack the capabilities of making stuff like this up.
Your friend whose uncle works at Blizzard told you they were happening for sure, hm?
And to think you earlier accused others of throwing tantrumsâŚ
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Iâm interested to see if anyone calls this out.
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I kind of did.
But I donât think they will look at the bigger picture. âOut of sight, out of mindâ, you know?
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Which mind you, I haven´t actually said there´s something wrong with giving non-void options to Velves. The whole issue appeared precisely cause I mentioned that if THIS happens, then the devs WILL have to compensate the Belf players with some very EXCLUSIVE customization for the race in exchange for losing the previous EXCLUSIVITY on the gameplay model. Customzaztion that CAN´T and WILL never ever be available for Velves. My post in which you and that MHP poster jumped to attack was done precisely in response to another poster that was asking not only for âHelferâ options but for shared runic tattoos and Pally class and so on (in short: that poster wanted Belf stuff shared WITHOUT proposing anything actually relevant and truly exclusive to replace losing the visual uniqueness of the look of the Belf model. That´s when I jumped to tell him, âkk, dude, so what do you propose as a compensation for getting all of our visual stuff?â).
There IS an issue when two products (in this case, both races) become CLONES. Because their value as an exclusive option gets effectively reduced by half (ergo, why designers CAN´T copy the designs of other designers and sell clothes with the same aesthetics). So IF the devs cave in and give into your demands, logic says they HAVE to give some sort of EXCLUSIVE customization to the Belf model that CAN´T be shared, period.
Lightforged doesn´t work because it´s already the EXCLUSIVE customization stuff of the LF Draenei. âDark Ranger / San´laynâ don´t work because they aren´t even related to the race (Dark Rangers were a Sylvanas thing, ergo a Forsaken thing. And San´layn aren´t even related to the factions, they´ùre Scourge stuff) and are niche options that aren´t appliable to the WHOLE freaking class / race combos like the tentacle stuff IS appliable to Velves. A Dark Ranger Paladin is a silly as a Velf one aesthgetically and thematically wise. Felblood doesn´t work because it´s related to a NEGATIVE aspect of the Belf race that even got killed by the Belves themselves as per the lore.
I thinks precisely this difficulty with finding a good enough thematic / visual replacement why devs didn´t gave you Helves in the first place. And why they only deployed the skin tones this time and didn´t made that extra step with the hair (cause for our misfortune, the hair is the ONLY exclusive visual aspect left of the Belf model. And the moment they cross this limit WILL be the moment they would NEED to have a solution at hand if they don´t want to mistreat their Belf fan customers).
As a matter of fact, yes they are. Maybe not ALL the haircuts, but the combination of colors AND haircuts IS exclusive for the Belves; you won´t find the same style and color in any other race of the game. It´s part of the Belf visual identity⌠quite pathetic if you ask me when ALL the other races get more nuanced differences in regards to their âsubraceâ; even worse when we look at the closest case in comparison to Belves A.K.A. the Nelves / Nightborne. Who sure as hell look VERY different from each other. Not shared hair color nor hairstyles either.
Says the poster more worried over making a tirade against my argument instead of 1)reading ALL my posts -which would have saved you a couple of embarrasing remarks btw- and 2) taking the issue seriously enough to propose actually intelligent options exclusive for the Belves instead of chanting the formulaic stuff taht´s not even remotely appliable to the Belves.
Tl;dr: pot, meet kettle. And your side of the fence has the embarrasing history of a decade of baggage and complaining behind you.
Which âexclusiveâ options, the lighforged already used on Draenei? The shared runic tattoss? the undead skins with red eyes -in which only the eyes are actually a novelty; undead skins we have had since WotLK-?
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I really more mean someone who might otherwise claim to be the moral guardian of these threads. If you catch me meaning.
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Fenelon here was in SW when QuelâThalas was being ravaged by the Scourge. He was against the idea of simply cutting ties with humanity and the Alliance and was partially ignoring Anasterianâs officially pulling out of the Alliance. He also at that time ended up going on a bit of an adventure that kept him from hearing about what happened to Quelâthalas until after the events of TFT.
When he heard about it he headed north and ended up trying to assist the elves who had regathered in Dalaran fully intending to eventually return to the Blood Elves and Silvermoon. He felt he could do better for them there securing supplies to be sent along.
Obviously this didnât really occur and then the Blood Elves joined the Horde. Fenelon refused to serve with Orcs and Trolls because of what had happened during the second war (which he had fought in) and remained in Dalaran. Though he hoped the Blood Elves would come to their senses.
At this time he considered himself a Blood Elf mind you. His view would change leading up to Wrath where he would start going as a High Elf again, and joined the SC. More a matter of rebellion for him and he was still wrestling with wanting to help his people and his dislike of Orcs and Trolls.
During the campaign in Northrend though he changed his mind about Orcs and trolls and began to have some desire again to maybe leave for Silvermoon.
Then cata happened and he had other things on his mind. Helping where he could. He also heard and saw what Garroshâs Horde was up to and had some⌠âconcernsâ.
Then Mop and the Purge. He immediately left the SC and felt he couldnât return to Silvermoon as long as they followed a warchief like Garrosh.
So he wandered a bit trying to help here and there. Eventually had a second brush with void powers. This time he began to think he could make better use of it. (I pretend that he went form Holy to discipline at this point.) His interest in the Voids power began to grow from there and he reenlisted with the Alliance through SW.
During WoD he journeyed through the portal and had a bit of an adventure with the Shadowmoon orcs. It was during this time he switches to Void primarily. He tried to hide it back then somewhat.
Legion he continued as he was trying to do what he could. Near the end he heard about Alleria and the other void elves and went to join them.
Now sees himself as a void elf and has gone through some effort to recreate the path Alleria walked. The process did change him and he has some tentacles hidden under his robes on his back.
I also rp he has a second mouth on his stomach. Cause thats really awesome.
This is also all a WIP by the by.
I have often though about that kind of SC member. I also have a toon who is JUST an SC scout working with the Alliance more directly now.
I also have two more Void Elves who are blueberries.
⌠and another who is a black dragon who was watching Umbricâs group and was also captured in the trap and became a Void Dragon who is pretending to be a Void ElfâŚ
I also have a High Elf who isnât an SC member who was sent by SI:7 to the Horde and ends up becoming a double agent for the Shattered HandâŚ
I have a lot of elves.
What does NEFPAS mean?
I have to know.
Void Elves are Void Elves. They were Blood Elves which are High Elves.
Now they are Void Elves.
The High Elf options are JUST for rp⌠per blizzard.
Also the complete lack of lore to support their sudden inexplicable existence through Void Elves.
Theyâre still Void Elves not high elves though.
High Elf options, per blizzard, are for rp. Which is fine.
Sounds more like Blizzard actually wont be adding them anytime soon.
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Theyâre void elves⌠why should they be watered down to something generic like high elves⌠which are already fully playable through blood elves and rp options already given.
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maybe try rebuild your burned to ash city before opening your mouth?
no such thing as half elf. silence.
itâs not about asking look alike option, itâs about playable new allied race, such as high elves silver covenant.
i donât want void elf or blood elf, itâs all about \HIGH elf.
wow âArielâ maybe you washed your memory and brains to zero capacity?
Whatâs this? Another of your headcanons?
The Horde is waiting for you.
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Well itâs time for me to take my leave. Reason why itâs because of stuff that has been happening to me in real life in reality and the more I go on the forums. The more time I waste away instead of actually playing the game or atleast bringing something to the Community that brings a smile.
If you havenât seen the post I made. Iâm leaving the forums since A itâs not really good for my health being on here alot or B I donât really offer much of anything now. Itâs like a time in where itâs like whatâs the point of being on here if there really hasnât been much of change or impact to the game or the community. I mean yea thereâs Wildhammer Dwarves, Half High Elves on the Alliance, and etc. But mostly I just keep on going on this cycle again, and again without actually doing something once in my life.
This is good bye to everybody. I may not have the best of interactions of most people on here but atleast it was something interesting like talking about stuff both positive and negative and be known other than not showing myself to the internet. Take care of yourselves guys. Life or time is going bit too fast and reality hits you very fast so love your family and friends that cares about you in this world, and hope you guys get the Anti Covid Cure soon. All I want to see in life is just to go back to the way things are in the real world without the worries of the Disease killing innocent people or other kinds of crazy stuff in the world. Basically just living a happy life and knowing you atleast make a mark on this world that would atleast last forever.
Take care and good bye folks. As for me. Not only am I going to be taking a break off of the forums but also to rethink on my life goals and everything else or doing something that I should atleast be doing. Playing the Game more or find other things.
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Well⌠Actually.
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Take care of yourself.
I saw the other post. My condolences.
RL of late has been a real mess for a lot of people.
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Itâs one of the reasons I havenât kept up with the discussion (though honestly, I use it more as a âisnât more customization options cool guysâ anyway). And mostly limited to me snipe-liking posts that line up with my perspective.
But anyway, smooth sailing.
And anything that doesnât involve a catastrophic drop in blood pressure can be remedied. Sometimes even that with the right interventions.
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My half orc/ half human paladin remains one of my favorite RP toons.
To paraphrase my favorite cartoon: Donât take life too serious. It ainât nohow permanent.
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