High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

[Rreifren-wyrmrest-accord]

You misunderstood what I am saying. I am not saying they are their own independent kingdom. I am saying that they are not associated with quel’thelas anymore.

[Rreifren-wyrmrest-accord]

completely false from a lore standpoint.

Most don’t have blue eyes. that is a stereotype brought on by their in game representation which is very lacking because they were not designed as a playable race.

[Alerovia-moon-guard]

Again Ion said so is a bad argument.

They make mistakes and can change their mind.

Look at what they did with 8.3 Essence. Asmongold is right. It should have been account bound and they make so many mistakes from this patch, that it’s becoming a meme.

[Coaxial-draenor]

They did a pretty poor job then, just like NB. I think NB are more different from NE than VE are from BE. It’s part of my irritation in general when it comes to Blizz and why I support HE for Alliance. VE cut down on a lot of the arguments against HE. The farther down the rabbit hole they go, the more hypocritical Blizz will seem in my eyes.

No real argument from me here.

They specifically ripped away actual Blood Elves just to hide from the High Elf request, but in my opinion it backfired. I might not even be involved in these threads if it wasn’t for VE.

I agree. By not using High Elves to make the Void Elves in the first place all Blizzard did was irk folk.

Until Blizz clarifies, I will stick to the logic. It’s kind of like Maghar Orcs, yeah? They ran through a portal and then it was closed, right? Feel free to correct me if I am wrong there since I am not well versed with the new orcs I may be wrong, but the “source” is cut off.

Without Blizzard specifically saying it we can only make assumptions, though I feel that’s why the bits I mentioned are there, and their resistance to answering the question directly is minorly maddening.

You are correct on the Mag’har part in this. Though I think we are meant to believe a large population came through. (and not just orcs)

It’s one thing to be brought back as undead and your choice is “exist like this or go back to being dead” vs “get infused (as you put it) by the void which makes you crazy and is one of the most dangerous things in the world or harnessing it like a shadow priest”. That’s really desperate and power hungry. Doesn’t fit the Alliance either.

The choice isn’t going mad. That was the choice before the void elves offered another option.

Play with the void in part never going deep (shadow priests, warlock) or go too deep and get taken by it, (those we’ve seen over the years lost to the void) or you become a void elf and have the ability to control and contain that power.

I cannot argue that this seems less an avenue the alliance is normally accustomed to accepting, but I also often complain the alliance isn’t varied enough. shrug

These are just my opinions as well. My irritation is with Blizzard.

Aye, unless blizz makes a statement one way or the other specifically its all just opinion. I appreciate being able to see others view on it.

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

My take on it is that they represent more of a hybrid between ethereals and high elves. It also explains why Alleria didn’t go full blueberry.

[Kirela-arygos (Kirela)]

Without Blizzard specifically saying it we can only make assumptions, though I feel that’s why the bits I mentioned are there, and their resistance to answering the question directly is minorly maddening.

I guess players will be split until its wrapped up then. I will leave it at that.

The choice isn’t going mad. That was the choice before the void elves offered another option.

Play with the void in part never going deep (shadow priests, warlock) or go too deep and get taken by it, (those we’ve seen over the years lost to the void) or you become a void elf and have the ability to control and contain that power.

I cannot argue that this seems less an avenue the alliance is normally accustomed to accepting, but I also often complain the alliance isn’t varied enough. shrug

Alleria hears voices. I think VEs do as well. I guess they can leave it at that and it will be “okay”, but there are effects from being a void elf.

And yes I know. They have spent a lot of time prettying up the Horde over the years and making them more like the Alliance, so I guess VE were their way of giving the Alliance some of the “Horde edge”, but its pretty laughable that they used… Blood Elves with tentacles and purple skin. Could have had Vrykul which make more sense and are monstery, but no. Blizz just doesn’t seem good at keeping their hipster side in check. They try to “break the trope” and it just falls on its face every time.

Variation would have been Vulpera. Sethrak. Saberon. Fish people. Gilbins or whatever they are called. Some of those other races players ask for. Copies of Draenei, BEs, Dwarves, and Gnomes aren’t variety, but that is not my personal focus. I’d rather have something enjoyable that makes sense than try for all these new things. The Vulpera vs gnome copies is pretty rank, though. Horde got the only truly new race so far.

[Kirela-arygos (Kirela)]

So are we all clear from earlier?

[Avarie-farstriders]

I really wish the idea of rolling high elves into void elves would go away.

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

Not sure what you’re talking about.

[Aerenas-deviate-delight]

Dropping in to show my support.

High Elves, gang gang.

[Coaxial-draenor]

I guess players will be split until its wrapped up then. I will leave it at that.

I think so too.

Alleria hears voices. I think VEs do as well. I guess they can leave it at that and it will be “okay”, but there are effects from being a void elf.

They do, and I’m not saying they don’t have the chance to lose control, I’m just saying it’s more then what has been Lorewise possible before.

I guess VE were their way of giving the Alliance some of the “Horde edge”

I think the void part was, the elf part was in their mind giving the players what they wanted (high elves) but they missed the mark trying to hold to their reasons why high elves can’t be. (and in doing so canceled out some of the reason in the process).

Could have had Vrykul which make more sense and are monstery,

We’d have more complaints of “lol alliance got more humans” I think. I agree partly in that I’d want to see something more monstery/beastial, like the Sethrak. (fully acknowledging that they’d totally go horde right now). Still I’m personally happy with the AR’s we’ve gotten. I want to see more of them. (with less rep gating).

Sethrak. Saberon. Fish people. Gilbins

Bring them all on I say. (some horde of course don’t unbalance the sides)

I am a particular fan of Sethrak and Gilgoblins.

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

Thing is there is no evidence for them making more Void Elves. Just that they are studying it.

We also got confirmation that they do not know how to make more.

The entire idea that every High Elf would become a Void Elf is also a logical fallacy. Since becoming one is just hearing constant whispers for some minor void powers and few would want to be corrupted willingly.

Also, Void Elves are no longer a race in beta. They’ve been established and they have their lore/theme/origins. Changing Void Elves just to make some of the High Elf fans happy is a just a bad idea.

[Coaxial-draenor]

We also got confirmation that they do not know how to make more.

Source? I have not seen any confirmation. (I’m genuinely asking where you got the info.)

[Leinadh-stormrage]

there is also at least 2 other active ‘high’ elf threads discussing the topic. this is basically spam

The other 2 “active” threads discuss why they’re a bad idea and advocate for not including them as an allied race. That’s not our discussion.

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

Source? I have not seen any confirmation. (I’m genuinely asking where you got the info.)

It was one of the WoWhead Interviews I believe. They said something along the lines “They aren’t recruiting.” and that someone was researching the process on how they where made.

But as of right now there is no way to make more and no way of knowing if it is even safe to try.

[Avarie-farstriders]

Even the void elves didn’t choose to be void elves. Why would high elves hop on board?

[Coaxial-draenor]

I’m sure ideally high elves would be an AR on their own.

I was just seeing if the idea had come up.

Given blizzards refusal thus far to give them to the Alliance it is a natural option to consider.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

The other 2 “active” threads discuss why they’re a bad idea and advocate for not including them as an allied race. That’s not our discussion.

And when we had to stick to the megathread because we were told that we weren’t allowed to have our thread we put up with it. The primer thread is where the discussion should be, not any of these newer threads.

[Starlagosa-dentarg (Starlagosa)]

So far I have seen that the high elf naysayers are absolute brainlets.

Op…I’m sure this isn’t what you were thinking when you put out the invites for everyone to post.

[Eivan-moon-guard]

Can you do something tho