SW was the source of bringing everyone together the second time around if I remember correctly. The first time the humans saved the high elves, the second time SW got their butt kicked and went to Lordaeron to pull everyone together again if what I read is correct. The refugees from SW originally came from Lordaeron too I think.
Blizzard never gave an answer to that.
We dont know what the rest of the continent was doing during the 3rd war and the time after that.
The only explanation so far was the black dragon infiltrated and disrupted the kingdom preventing them from doing anything.
I played that zones several times I and dont know what changed the NE position towards the BE from the WC3: frozen throne and the BC era.
Sources? Are you talking about bringing everyone together meaning high elves specifically or some races generally? Everything Iâve seen suggests that high elves were only ever reluctant to ally with human nations aside from Dalaran.
There was the whole near genocide thing. Though that was a Lorderon officer.
Iâll be fair, itâs probably just a reason to pit us against the Stormwind Alliance, but a canon reason nonetheless. Maybe they heard of fel.
I mean, this alone shows me youâve never played Horde, and thatâs fine, I donât play Alliance myself. But if I were to try to make an argument that two greatly different things are actually the same without checking for, I donât know, NPCs that has expressed regret over the past (and boy, Saurfang would not shut up about it), then I should be reminded that what I said itâs absolutely incorrect.
No, they are not. Those were used to power up structures, sinâdorei only learned siphoning from creatures. They were affected by the crystals, but they didnât feed off them.
So yes, high elves, the few that were actually exiled at the very least, did indeed throw a hissy fit over the rest of the population not going into magical veganism even if they were in the brink of extinction.
Ok, Iâll admit that I just got that vibe from that paragraph, Iâm sorry. But at this point Iâve seen the implication and the downright expression that the blue eyed ones are morally better, that it makes me react very quickly.
Iâll make sure to ignore all high elf players if they join the alliance, best way to protest their existence.
The high elves that remain with the alliance objected to the way Anastarian treated the humans. He sent a token force out of obligation and then got mad at the humans when part of Quelâthalas was burned.
Then when his former allies were being decimated Anastarian took no action of any kind, assuming Quelâthalas wasnât a target for a second time. Meanwhile there were some high elves that had remained loyal who were being killed by Arthas in Lordaeron, with NO support from their homeland.
But somehow the high elves are the disloyal ones for not returning to a land that sat back and did nothing until they were the ones being attacked. Some of the high elves that did return to fight or hadnât left were later exiled for not wanting to be mana vampires.
While exiled, their former leader and friend allowed her boytoy to send horde players to murder them to get a scrap of paper so people wouldnât know his edgy new last name wasnât his real last name.
And then in Cata the blood elves nearly bailed on the horde to join the alliance, whereas the high elves we want as playable have worked with the alliance since before blood elves were playable for the horde.
And anyone who wants to say the high elves were enjoying a life of luxury while coping with the withdrawls, or that they sat back and let others fight while they sat around in Dalaran, needs to provide proof that thatâs what they did.
- [Blood elves] are high elves who had temporarily turned to absorbing demonic magic after the loss of the [Sunwell, and had subsequently become addicted to the fel energies. From the most pious of priests or most outdoorsy of Farstriders, chances are any high elf in QuelâThalas or Outland following the [Third War]was around fel energies, which made their eyes turn green.[[37]] [Kaelâthas Sunstriderâs] most loyal followers were rewarded by [Kilâjaeden] with the gift of being allowed to gorge themselves on demonic blood for days for remaining in [Outland, even as many of his blood elves retreated through the [Dark Portal]. These are known as [Felblood elves].
It seens it is demonic magic, it is from the article about fel magic in wowpedia and it has sources.
Also in the wow comic Valeera says that she was exposed to fel magic as child in order to survive the loss of the sunwell.
The High elfs where exiled, there was even a short story in the old wow site, Shadows in the Sun if I recall correctly, where Lorthemar says he exiled those that refused the new ways.
Some people regard other values about survival at any cost, the high elfs belived there was another way and until the restoration of the sunwell that way seemed to work well enough, the lodges around EK look well enough.
I played horde at 1st, with a blood elf, but didnt liked it, but I got to max level in wrath.
Saurfang was the only one I know that expressed sorrow towards the past, most of the horde didnt cared about it.
Sorry for the long reply
A few people living abroad is not equivalent to the survival of the species and the bulk of the population.
Alliance high elves arenât one group. Itâs a bunch of different groups and subgroups some of which may not be formally apart of the Alliance. Some of them had made lives abroad and stuck with that, sure. But many more ditched their people over a diet or just because they hate orcs, ei. haughty even among the haughty. That group is likely the only formal organization a player group could be drawn from.
Funny how you copied that from the article about Fel and not from the one about Blood elves. The main source of this is the novel Stormrage, which has been retconned not only in game, but by the Ultimate Visual Guide and Chronicles.
That article about Fel is far more outdated than the one you avoided to check. I wonder why you picked a side article over the main one
Which, again, itâs been retconed.
No, those that are now wretched were exiled. The rest simply didnât come back.
A small group of rangers went full PETA on the rest of the population.
Again, I donât see the issue with playing only one faction. But at least I try to remain informed about the side I donât play before I make any statements as if they were true.
Go be productive.
But mooooom, someoneâs wrong on the internet! >.<
Of course, I support High Elves as a playable race for the Alliance. Since Iâve gone over all the arguments and personally believe that I came out of them as the victor, I will simply refer both pro and anti groups to The High Elf Handbook.
The link: highelves [dot] carrd [dot] co
I say that this covers just about everything and if there are any disagreements about anything that is written there, Iâd be interested to see what they are.
Not yet able to post convenient links yet.
You and other antis seem to have a hard time separating quelâthelas from the high elves we are talking about.
Really the ones we are asking for should be seen as their own separate kingdom.
This was a post I made a very long time ago that pieces it all together pretty well I think. If any of it is incorrect you will have to cite where it has been corrected.
Anasterian may have not been highly motivated at first, but from what the article says that did change and that change happened because of Alleria, but yes SW was the catalyst for bringing the races together for the Second War.
Might as well post my compilation of suggestions again.
Gee I wonder why.
We where arguing about fel magic, which is way I went there, no foul play here.
You seem eager to pin me as malicious.
Is Varian part of the comic retconned ? As far as I know the retconned meâdan out of existence only.
I dont think so. The short is called in the Shadow of the Sun here is the passage:
"Lorâthemar had become accustomed to the mockery of those he could not please, but he had not fully anticipated the pointed sting that Rentharâs laugh elicited. Even Auroraâs face, normally so controlled and serene, flushed deeply with undisguised contempt.âFive years we rot here, thrown out of our homes at yourbehest because we refuse to suck magic from living things like vampires.â Renthar began to rise from his seat, leaning across the table, truly shaking with rage. "
Also the lodges look pretty big to me, but the in games number are never an acurate representation of the world.
Since you argued that I never played horde, I felt the need to clarify that I indeed played in the horde, you felt that was an important point to make about playing the horde.