That’s some nice headcanon, the developers have disagreed with you since their inception into wow.
Blood elves are the high elf fantasy of wow.
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I don’t know if that’s entirely true. I’ve understood it that Void Elves are a hybrid between high elves and whatever they were being transformed into when the ritual was interrupted. Presumably ethereals? Exposition is as always poor but I wouldn’t be so sure that fair skinned Void Elves are lore friendly. Whatever that really means. Lore in this game is typically a vehicle for other things and in this case I think the point of Void Elves is that they aren’t fair skinned and i think whatever lore, if it is clarified, will reflect that.
Personally if they get more options I’m hoping they double down on the void theme, like N’zoth eyes, scales, and transparency.
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Mine direly needs more void tendrils in hair and voidy beards. Maybe some star pattern stuff.
Their theme needs to be reinforced not gutted right after their inception.
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Oh I forgot to say miasma, dark glow, or vapors!
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Extra set of eyeballs, go for it Blizz!
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Please, a whole forehead full… and make them orange!
Void eye brows with that weird effect
It is true. Ren’dorei, like Alleria, are still High Elves. They just call themselves by a different name now just like Blood Elves.
No. This isn’t stated anywhere in the lore nor is it implied in my opinion.
Blizzard said that they’re Elves “infused” with the power of the Void. Not merged with a living being.
Well there is a Void Elf in the lore that is fair skinned that exists currently. Alleria. Then we have the following:
Which is true but not really saying anything. The door is left open and as you say:
Blizzard hasn’t spoken.
It’s their decision. So it’s just a battle in the community because some people “prefer it not”. It’s not a debate about if it fits the lore anymore. It can.
Take this scenario: “Blizzard introduced in 9.2, Void Elf light skin tones (we know what we’re talking about, not to be semantically explicit here)” This would not contradict any current statement in the lore at all. The only thing it could contradict is player interpretation of the lore.
Look at black Blood Elves. It doesn’t matter even if it goes against the lore, it can be changed.
Well Old Gods are like the High Elf issue. Not all High Elves are Blood Elves, but all Blood Elves are High Elves.
Not all Void beings are Old God beings but every Old God being is a Void Being. Void Elves aren’t in contact with the Old God type of Void Beings but rather just your standard non-Old God type of Void stuff.
I’d like to see more of both ends.
I’d like to see more Void options for them on one end and then have more “Alleria” options on the other. Since these both won’t defy any lore.
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Political schism = \ = having your very essence rearranged and changed forever by the void.
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They can add whatever they want for void elves. I just want high elves on the alliance preferably with more of a nature theme.
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Having you’re essence changed forever doesn’t make you not an Elf anymore.
Void Elves are still High Elves just as Fel Blood Elves are still High Elves and Fel Orcs are still Orcs. Same with any other race. Void Elves are High Elves. Blood Elves are High Elves.
Even IF Void Elves are not High Elves which they are, since Alleria found a way to control hers then playable Velfs have the door open for them to learn to do the way of “Alleria”.
If Blizzard deems it, it won’t break the lore. So there is still nothing against Velf light skin tones.
Alleria is not a Void Elf, she received her void powers by absorbing a lot of void magic. Void Elves were actually being transformed into something else and that transformation was interrupted mid way through.
You can run through their Allied race quest arc again and look for specific language, but that’s the general interpretation.
Again, I don’t think that’s what she is.
void elves are blood elves which are high elves. whats the prob? Alliance rlly are discriminatory that’s why ya’ll just are just a bunch of different shapes humans and goat people. cool AR don’t like your racism!
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Yes she is. Everyone in the lore community like Red Shirt guy from his blog, Nobbel, and even in Q&A interviews with Blizzard say that she is indeed a Void Elf, or Ren’dorei. Not just the leader. She is indeed the FIRST Void Elf.
HOW you become a Void Elf doesn’t make you a different race, unless explicitly stated.
If the implication is that “Because she got her powers in a different manner, she has a different racial composition in her body therefore and is not a Void Elf. Thats’ why she can change forms but playable Velfs can’t.”
You’re making this up yourself. Blizzard didn’t say this anywhere. They called her the first of the Void Elves.
No. There is no where in the lore that it states they were transformed into something “different” than a High Elf.
They’re still High Elves but have infused Void Essence which changed them forever.
There is no explicit account of anything you said. This is only your “explanation” to fit your preference. You prefer Void Elves to be the way you say. I read and see what’s stated.
Others who have connections and talk with WoW devs state otherwise.
So far what’s being said is speculation, not lore.
It’s speculation to explain “Why playable Velfs should be different than Alleria” because people prefer it that way. It’s speculation to explain the Velfs as a different being because it distances Blood Elves from Void Elves due to preference.
Alleria is the first Void Elf.
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I have to disagree. She got there through a different path and yes the result was minorly different, but she is a void elf.
She claims as such and blizzard says she is too.
Even if I kinda feel like she isn’t.
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Look, if you’re going to do a long point by point thing, I’m not going to read it all, especially since you use a lot of language to take me a pretty short distance.
I don’t know that it makes you a different race from high elves. The term “transformed” is used in several places. I also recall it in the quest text.
I stated nothing as concrete…
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I wasn’t aware of that blog post, thank you for bringing it to my attention, even if it is in a strange intense tone of writing. However, I still think it is fair to assume we shouldn’t expect her to be representative of the rest of the Void Elves. Not only due to the difference in coming to her void powers, but because she is a WoW hero class.
I wasn’t aware of the blog post by Blizzard. Hopefully she’ll go full blue berry soon. It is a bit strange that her eyes are still blue as the sky when void is at least as corrupting as fel.
Though looking for consistency in WoW is often asking for too much.
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I apologize. Not trying to but a lot of points. Just ignore my minor ones I guess.
I’m not trying to have a semantic argument.
Well this is a different type of logic that we can’t apply real world standards into.
Take Demon Hunters for example.
They transformed into beings of fel, they’re actually straight up “demons” with the fel infused into them now. The Illidari were full members of the Burning Legion at one point until Illidian executed their betrayal finally.
Would this not explain just like Void Elves that they didn’t cease to be their old race anymore? Even technically “transforming”.
I think that Blood Elf Demon Hunters and Void Elves are both transformed in a similar way how magic infuses into you and transforms you, but you still retain your genetics and are still of your race.
I mean we’re talking about magic. Biologically speaking we can’t apply real world logic to assume that the DNA is different. Like where does the magic physically manifest? Are there glands? Is the magic flowing through the body like how ants and other insects who don’t have veins have their “blood” slosh underneath the chitin in their bodies?
It’s all speculation at this point really.
I think a lot who argue otherwise have a preference. Like I said earlier that even if such is true that playable Velfs are a different race, which I really think is false, there is still nothing lore-breaking or retconning about them getting light skin tones.
did the normal void elves ate a dark naaru? no? they can’t be like alleria, sorry
That is factually false, thats just another proof of how those HE fans have a huge headcanon about elves in this game, and are completely devoid of lore.
Silver covenant fantasy is not what define high elf fantasy, HE fantasy is their kingdom, their ancient home, their people, their magisteres, their Rangers, that, is high elf fantasy, since they changed from the highbornes, and that is already fulfilled by blood elves
The silver covenant who seize the opportunity of Jaina mental breakdown to make their vengeance against the blood elves in dalaran and kill then?
the ones who forsake their kingdom, their people and their loyalties, because the elves in jeopardy accepted the help of a faction who didn’t tried to genocide their race and kill their prince?
i don’t think that is high elf fantasy dude.
you clearly, don’t know the lore, don’t try to educate others.
thats great, then we don’t need a high elf playable,
We can end those topics right now!
it will.
no reason to
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Absolutley.
Blizzard provides vague exposition in part because I think they want us to all have our own take on the story. I think that’s problematic when you have a fandom. The people who post in these threads care more than the writers do. I can only speak to my experience and interpretation, however as I mentioned lore tends to be a vehicle for other things. The only indication we have on the matter is that something so similar to Blood Elves (appearance) on the Alliance would be a violation of their game design philosophy. I do however hope they get awesome Void options down the road… ones that make them both beautiful and terrifying or just one or the other.
As far as Alleria, I wouldn’t look too hard at her for constancy. She was after all on Outland and Argus exposed to fel just as much as the Blood Elves, Her eyes should bee green and now that she slurped up a dark Nauru, I’d expect at least Void Elf looking eyes. Alleria is just a WoW hero class and who knows, maybe next time we see her she’ll show the effects of eating an everlasting gobstopper from the Wonka tour she took on Argus.
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